From the 12/5 edition of the New York Post:
Dems trade 'choice' words
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's team had a pro-choice supporter bash rival Sen. Barack Obama's record on abortion rights - but his camp responded with past praise from his basher.
Ellen Malcolm, president of pro-choice EMILY's List, held a press conference denouncing Obama for voting "present" instead of "yes" on a "critical" abortion rights bill when he was in the Illinois Legislature.
She also faulted a US Senate floor speech he gave opposing Chief Justice John Roberts because Obama "barely" mentioned Roe vs. Wade.
But Obama's camp released a May 2006 letter from Malcolm praising his "fighting to make change happen."
Geoff Earle
File this one under "I never met an abortion I didn't like" or "a woman's unbounded right to a little Hoover action",
ReplyDeleteit's like they never learn. Political analyst Mark Shields, who himself veers toward the Left a little, said on a Newshour with Jim Lehrer years ago (actually I think it was when Robert MacNeil co-anchored, he of dirty novel fame), Shields said, and I paraphrase, "the Dems need to be very careful themselves so that they don't appear overly pro-abortion."
Operation Clinton - the Lilith wing of the Democratic Party.
At a forum I visit, I was actually called "anti-choice" by a so-called Republican, and also told the GOP is out of date since it holds onto the pro-life platform. This is getting scary, man.
ReplyDeleteEspecially when more and more polls show, despite their personal political positions, a big part of the population has qualms about abortion. Beth, it's this historic tension between the social conservatives and the fiscal libertarians within the Republican party, I thought things were at an ebb but I think they want to purge us from the party once and for all.
ReplyDeleteAs for Obama, if I were him I'd say to Hill keep it coming.
As I replied at that forum, I see the social aspects of conservatism making sense with the fiscal side, it's all about personal responsibility and empowering the individual to reach their full potential, in my opinion.
ReplyDeleteIMHO abortion is all about sloppy sex, bad sex, women who have regrets later, too much drinking, whatever, and in my view abortion fosters social irresponsibility. Men can have their romps with no strings attached, you'd think the feminists would have a slight problem with this.
ReplyDeleteWhat do you think about people who abort because they think their child has a genetic defect?
ReplyDeleteIn the feminist view sex and abortion are inextricably linked, it's almost as if they plan on having one themselves else why would it be so important? Like that Chris Rock joke, it was offensive at first blush but it had more than a kernel of truth, that those young women you see at pro-abortion rallies, it means they're f~~~ing in his parlance. For the conservative sex is definitely a good thing but it can wait at times and no need to throw our reason out the window. At its root there is a radical difference in worldviews and it all revolves around
ReplyDeletethe nasty if you will.
What do I think about those people Beth? The same thing I think about those people who celebrated Michael Schiavo's "right" to starve and dehydrate his estranged wife to death, it doesn't surprise and it's all of the same cloth. People who do that pre-birth will do it at your end too and won't even lose a wink of sleep over it either.
ReplyDeleteWhat I mean is that people who kill their unborn is not always about sloppy sex. That's why I think of abortion more as about selfishness, either not wanting a baby made through sloppy sex, or not wanting a baby who isn't perfect. Euthanasia is also about selfishly not wanting to care for someone else deemed unworthy. It's all so disguting it hurts sometimes.
ReplyDeleteWhat I mean Beth, and my brother said this, when abortion was illegal people were probably much more careful about birth control and probably waited longer too. There was more thought that went into the act, today you don't have that and for me it all falls under the category of sloppy sex. It's almost like birth control becomes a real chore when you can just abort instead of wearing a suit in the shower as they say.
ReplyDeleteYou (and your brother) have a point here. It's all very sad no matter how you look at it.
ReplyDeleteSloppy sex is a big category Beth. Hey, here's something you never read about in Cosmo, men (like me) who won't go out with pro-abortion women (regretfully pro-choice women something else). Don't want a good time to turn into feticide if ya understand, it can wait (although not as long as the produce manager).
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