Nobody cared about Politics in that Chilean mine. We are human first and liberals or conservatives second. Should the liberal miners have been the last ones to get in that capsule?
Next time you have trouble sticking to your diet consider that these brave souls were rationed two spoonfuls of tuna, half a glass of milk and a couple crackers every 48 hours at the beginning of their ordeal which as ABC's 20/20 told us last night was not enough for nourishment but to prevent the body from going into withdrawal and shock. This has inspired me to not see only one main meal every 24 hours as that big a deal. Had some Muscle Milk this morning, banana creme flavor. Tasted more like paint but I'm not complaining.
Si es Goya tiene que ser bueno.
Are people still on the liberal/conservative, democrat/republican paradigm?
ReplyDeleteSeriously....there's zero degrees of separation between Barack Obama, Sarah Palin, and Rush Limbaugh and were that not enough there's this:
"12 year old girl discovers all Presidents but 1 related to former English King"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dveHuamNxpQ&playnext=1&videos=Gfkq1roeayY&feature=rec-LGOUT-farside_rn-2r-3-HM
IMF/CFR/World Bank
New World Order anyone?
Ah soap I sadly tend to agree and I remember reading on Alex Jones' website that in his view this whole Glenn Beck/Obama feud is all for show as Beck works for corporate media. Yes FOX is corporate media. Not saying I agree with Jones here but it's an interesting take. Beck will only go so far in questioning things, Jones takes it to the next level. You might say Alex Jones is the original Glenn Beck.
ReplyDeleteFrom Larry Mendte's blog of Oct. 13, "The Chilean Miners Brought us Hope":
ReplyDelete"Suddenly our differences mattered not and we came together because of what we share...Just imagine if the world could come together more often to solve problems. For one moment we didn't have to imagine."
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ReplyDeleteOh come one Soap,
ReplyDeleteYou can't Possibly be Serious! What you are saying makes no Sense.
I agree with you that we are Headed for a New World Order, but to say that Sarah Pain and Rush Limbaugh are anything Like Obama is Ludicrous. It's as if Nothing Less than an Extreme is Noticed by you.
Get with the program Lista.
ReplyDeletehttp://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2010/10/14/obama-related-to-palin-limbaugh-ancestry-com-finds/
What's more, you'd do well to spend a little less time criticizing me as "extreme" and a little more time in learning about the IMF/World Bank the CFR and exactly who it's members are and what their extreme agenda is all about.
IMF Means "In My Face", yet I have no Idea what CFR Stands for, so your Comment is not Helpful. I'm a Slow Reader and Research Takes a lot of Time. I will Read the Linked Page, but I am not going to have the Time to do the Extensive Research that you would like me to.
ReplyDeleteSorry if you do not Like me Calling Libertarianism Extreme, yet that is how I see it and...Well...
Maybe I should just Admit that you Talk Over my Head a lot of the Time and for you to Simply Feel Annoyed because I do not Know what you Think I should Know does not do anything to Help Persuade me to your Point of View.
You can Judge me as Lazy, or for that Matter Stupid, if you want to, but Meanwhile, the Democrats or whoever are going to Continue to Take away your Freedoms and the "Lazy" and "Stupid" are going to get their Way because you do not know how to Explain yourself in Simpler Terms.
Perhaps you did not Say "Lazy" or "Stupid" to me, yet that is how I Feel when Talking to Someone who is More Efficient and more Knowledgeable than myself, even if the Area of Knowledge is something that does not Interest me that much because to me it's Extreme.
That was a funny one. IMF is the International Monetary Fund. CFR is the Council on Foreign Relations. Soapie could have added the TC or the Trilateral Commission. For Alex Jones just click on my link "Infowars" over on the right.
ReplyDeleteGotta be careful with that TC. Our professional baseball team up here in MN has ballcaps with that. ;-)
ReplyDeleteOf course only "extremists" and kooks think the IMF/CFR/Trilateral Commission run the world. Funny cuz as they say, the truth lies in numbers and the number of loans and the dollar amounts therein to third world countries and their dictators sure tells us quite a bit.
Now if I understand my NWO correctly once a third world country accepts an IMF loan they pretty much have to, how shall we say get with the program?
ReplyDeleteOf course Alex Jones tells us quite a bit too. Course he's a kook too as are most of us who have reservations about WTC7 and all things 911.
ReplyDeleteWhen I first heard of the name Alex Jones the term wingnut was naturally attached but the more I delved into him, my friend gave me a couple DVDs, two things stand out. He says many many things your average conservative/libertarian would agree with and he's consistent. Re terror what the hell is this "chatter" anyway and how come nobody heard this chatter before 9/11? Like that recent major major warning about something's gonna happen in Europe and of course it never does, gotta be some reason the government keeps issuing these Alerts every now and then.
ReplyDeleteI don't suppose one of the DVD's was the Bohemiam Grove one was it?
ReplyDeleteThe world's elite dressing in robes praying and sacrificing to an owl statue (what does it say when that same owl is in the upper right hand corner of a $1 I dunno...). And here Alex Jones, Ron Paul and others like myself are the "kooks".
He's got some apparently newly released videos from 9/11 that (well at least for anyone with even an ounce of skepticism) ought to serve as reason enough to launch a fresh investigation but you know damn well they won't.
Not only is he consistent Z, he isn't what you'd define as Corporate/MSM Statist news. What's more, he's been the first guy with his finger on the pulse on a whole host of issues and his reporting is and has been pretty accurate.
ReplyDeleteI always like when he'd show up at some conference and totally put people on the spot (ambush journalism I think they call it). But 9 times out of 10 you could tell the subject he was pressing was all hot under the collar. They knew something and hell if they were gonna divulge any specifics.
The Police State Trilogy and The Obama Deception. I have some catching up to do.
ReplyDeleteI'm going to work at 3 so take care and catch y'all tomorrow.
ReplyDeleteYou can watch some of the Bohemian Grove stuff on Youtube. Nucking Futz I tell ya.
ReplyDeleteDon't work too hard now.
"... does not do anything to Help Persuade me to your Point of View."
ReplyDeleteThis is where you totally misunderstand me. I've no interest whatsoever in persuading you to my point of view.
Though I will say this, just as people use religion and mysticism as a means to explain away events and things they've no interest in exploring, so too do individuals employ such terms as "extreme" or "kooky" as a means of simply disengaging their minds in an exploratory discussion about the application of beliefs or principles which, by their own fault, are abstract to them.
Zen and algebra are pretty abstract to me.
ReplyDeleteI don't particularly like dealing with money, either.
Give your money to me. I'll take good care of it.
ReplyDeleteI don't know what NWO means either. I'm Guessing WTC = World Trade Center, yet what's the 7? And by the way, I Quizzed my Husband on these Abbreviations and he didn't know what they were either. He says that he has heard of these things, but does not Usually see them Abbreviated, though my Husband is Actually Pretty Smart and Keeps Up on the News more than I do.
ReplyDeleteSoap,
What is it with you guys all the Time Acting as if Trying to Persuade to One's Point of View is a Negative? How Else do you Expect to Change the Direction of the Country if not by Persuading People of things? And for your Information, I do not Use the Word "Extreme" in the Manner in which you have Suggested. Now you are Stereo-typing. I Use it because I Believe that the Answer Quite Often Lies in the Middle, rather than Way Off to One Side or the Other of any Particular Issue.
I just Haven't Found another Word that Describes the two Far Sides the Furthest from the Center. If you have another Word for it, then by all Means Educate me.
Satyavati,
Apparently, according to Soap, it is your Own Fault if you do not Understand Algebra, or for that Matter, Calculus. I guess you and I Better "Get with the Program", huh? ;)
NWO = New World Order.
ReplyDeleteI'd appreciate it as well Lista if you'd cease from interjecting your own opinions into what I state or comment herein. At no time did I state that trying to do so was a negative.
In some instances, yes the middle is a viable option. For example, one needn't choose betwwen drinking large quantities of alcohol or drinking none at all.
On a great many other matters however, politics being one them, there is in my opinion no compromise between those in power who side with global goverance and the entities (IMF,CFR,Trilateral Commission, World Bank, World Trade Organization, NAFTA, Federal Reserve, U.N., et al.) which propogate and endorse these globalist and globalism ideas and those that believe in American sovereignty.
Poilitics for me is not relegated to Democrats vs. Republicans or Sarah Palin vs. Obama. In my view, these two and a vast many others are merely pawns in a massive game of chess where other interests/entities (see aforementioned list) are actually moving the pieces.
It is these entities that are behind the proverbial curtain pulling the strings.
WTC7 is building number 7 of the World Trade Center complex. It is a building that most people have totally and completely forgotten about and for good reason. Yet, building number 7 tells us much about what really happened that day as does the Pentagon crash. Of course in order to see it one has to be willing to turn off that part of the brain into which the government matrix is plugged into so that they may think freely and independently to review all of the evidence and events and piece them together with what has occured since then.
"Satyavati,
ReplyDeleteApparently, according to Soap, it is your Own Fault if you do not Understand Algebra, or for that Matter, Calculus. I guess you and I Better "Get with the Program", huh? ;)"
If your preference is to find someone else to point the finger at for your own shortcomings or lack of understanding of algebra or any other such matter then have at it.
One could of course blame the teacher for not explaining it in a manner which is more easily understood. OR, one could blame theselves (as well they should) for not seeking out another teacher who might explain the subject matter in a more easily digestable form.
"... people use religion and mysticism as a means to explain away events and things they've no interest in exploring..."
ReplyDeleteOf course when we opt to engage our minds....
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/3172354/The-Curse-of-the-Crying-Boy-is-solved-by-Steve-Punt.html
I like religion and mysticism for their own sake. To echo Saty's feelings about not liking dealing with money I HATE dealing with the Mundane. You go home and have to deal with bills and write checks. You'll see an older couple spend a few hours going over discrepancies on their medical bills, that sort of thing. I know this is necessary but I hate getting bogged down with this crap. I think at the End the measure of your Life will be whether you dwelt in the mundane all your life or went with the poetry. Soap you should do a whole blog about your reservations about 9/11.
ReplyDelete"Soap you should do a whole blog about your reservations about 9/11."
ReplyDeleteWould you read it?
I most assuredly will and will comment generously and then Patrick M can make fun.
ReplyDelete"...and then Patrick M can make fun."
ReplyDeleteIf he did I'd ban his ass pronto from commenting.
I'm not interested in an argument from intimidation wherein Patrick or anyone else writes myself or others off as kooks/nutjobs/tin-foil hat wearers, etc.
What I am interested in is in having them put forth a plausible explanation in response to a flurry of unknowns, discrepancies, and just plain irregularities from that day.
I feel this way about the JFK assassination. Too many unknowns, discrepancies and just plain irregularities from that day beginning with the grassy knoll. Just to shut off debate by calling us a bunch of Oliver Stones is an argument from intimidation and it happens all the time. So what is so radical about the notion of a bunch of globalists and internationalists really pulling the strings? Nothing when you get right down to it but to hear people talk and I didn't even mention the Freemasons.
ReplyDeleteThe funniest thing about it is that the masses are so willing to accept the commission's report on the JFK assassination, Iran Contra affair, 9/11, etc. without realizing that these "independent" commissions are comprised of government officials.
ReplyDeleteAn institution cannot investigate itself. It's like at some workplaces you'll have these 1-800 #'s to call if you spot unethical or illegal activity. So you call the number on your screen and you send them info that they know how to hide anyway cause it's all tied in with the company. I blogged many moons back about the need to have an outside judgement and I applied it to alot of Things and when I say an outside judgement I mean an Outside Judgement.
ReplyDelete"I'd appreciate it as well, Lista, if you'd cease from interjecting your own opinions into what I state or comment herein. At no time did I state that trying to do so was a negative."
ReplyDeleteYou know, Soap, you are beginning to so Remind me of Someone I Know who does not Speak Clearly and yet if I Misunderstand him, it's my Fault.
Also, what makes you think that when I Accuse Libertarians of Extremism, that I am Thinking of Globalism? Don't you see? You are Right Now "Interjecting your Opinions into what I State or Comment.", just as you have Told me not to Do in relation to you.
In my Opinion, those who have Never seen Videos such as the "The Obama Deception" and the Like will have no Clue what you are Talking about. I was Only Exposed to the Idea Recently and had no Clue that you have also been Concerned about the Issue, so for you to Assume that my Previous Comments about Extremism were in Reference to this Issue is Grossly Incorrect.
I Only Heard about the Government Conspiracy in Relation to 9/11 Recently too and for you to Treat me Like I'm Stupid or Lazy because I do not Know these things is not Going to Help your Cause. You Need to Change your Attitude if you want to Influence those around you in any way that Might Actually Make a Difference.
These Issues that we are now Discussing have nothing to do with Libertarianism. These are Separate Issues and I do not Feel that they are Partisan in Nature.
Boy, this Comment is Making me Tired. I'll Come Back and Read and Respond to the Rest Later.
I don't see why it ought to my fault that you misinterpret my words. Seems to me it was as clear day when I said I've no interest in persuading people. You took it upon yourself to infer that I found a problem with others doing so. That fault lies squarely with you I'm afraid.
ReplyDeleteOk. I Took a Break and am Back now.
ReplyDeleteMy Husband just Informed me that it was Ahmadinejad (President of Iran) who First Brought the 911 Conspiracy to Light. He Talked about it at the UN Meeting in New York and Delegates from America Walked Out of the Meeting, they were so Upset.
"If your preference is to find someone else to point the finger at for your own shortcomings or lack of understanding of algebra or any other such matter, then have at it."
Yes, and if your Preference is to Find someone else to Point the Finger at for your Own shortcoming in relation to Communicating, then you can have at it too. You have a Tendency to Talk Over People's Heads, Soap, and yet there are a lot of Voters Out there that are Less Knowledgeable and Educated than any of those Participating in this Comment Thread.
We Seek Out Teachers if we are Interested in a Particular Subject, yet if no One Bothers to Present a subject in a Way that Sparks that Interest, then the Information will never be Sought After and that is at Least in Part the Fault of those who do not Present Ideas and an Understandable and Interesting Manner.
What I am Trying to say is that if the Voters are Ignorant, then it is Partly their Fault, yet it is also Partly the Fault of those who have Decided to either be Politically Passive and Apathetic, or are Politically Involved in ways that are Ineffective.
It's just like One of the Principles of Leadership is that we should not Always Blame the Followers for their Lack of Loyalty, for if a Leader has Trouble Motivating the Loyalty of Followers, then he is doing something Wrong.
"... people use religion and mysticism as a means to explain away events and things they've no interest in exploring..."
ReplyDeletePeople do not Need Excuses for Lack of Interest in a Particular Thing. We have the Right to be Interested or not Interested in Whatever and if anyone Desires to change the Political Climate in their Favor, then they Need to somehow figure out a way to Create more Interest.
You Know, Soap, I Might Even Read a Post on 9/11 if you Posted it. Let me Know if you do.
"I've no interest whatsoever in persuading you to my point of view."
"At no time did I state that trying to do so was a negative."
If Trying to Persuade is not a Negative, then why would you have No Interest in Doing so? It Seems that you Think that a Person's Lack of Interest in what you are Saying is a Negative. This Comes Across Like a Guilt Trip, yet if so, why is the Learner's Lack of Interest a Problem, but not the Lack of Interest of the Teacher?
"My Husband just Informed me that it was Ahmadinejad (President of Iran) who First Brought the 911 Conspiracy to Light."
ReplyDeleteYour husband is misinformed. The notion that 9/11 was something more than merely Islamic terrorists with box cutters has existed since September 11, 2001. The Iranian president only made mention of it but the idea has in fact existed since day one.
Actually what I said was "Brought to Light". I made no Mention of whether or not there was any Previous Knowledge of the Issue Prior to this.
ReplyDeleteI don't have an interest in persuading people and it has nothing to do with it being a negative or positive sort of thing. I simply do not care if someone believes what I believe. If they do, great then let's talk about it, if they don't ah well.
ReplyDeleteHe didn't even "bring it to light" Lista.
ReplyDeleteIt's been floating around out there since day one.
In fact it was "brought to light" that very day when WTC7 somehow miraculously fell right into it's very own footprint and people on the scene not only heard explosions prior to it coming down but they also told people to move away from the building because it was going to be coming down.
Were that not enough, the BBC and other outlets broadcasting at the time actually reported the building came down 20 minutes before it did.
Further, the NIST (National Institute of Standards and Technology) recently released after dragging its damn feet for years in an attempt to block footage video which shows WTC7 coming down however when compared to other videos of WTC, the recently released videos appear to have been edited to minimize evidence of a controlled demolition.
ReplyDeleteI guess you are Sort of having an Indirect Conversation with my Husband, Soap. Now he is Clarifying that Ahmadinejad was the First to Publicly Accuse the United States of the Conspiracy. He's heard the Story, though, just as you are Explaining.
ReplyDeleteNothing can be Proved, but it's Interesting and I'm not going to disregard the Information.
I'll try to hammer out a blog this weekend. Stay tuned y'all.
ReplyDeleteLista as for soap being over people's heads I chalk it up to he reads alot. He's a very learned man.
ReplyDeleteActually, that's no Excuse for Talking Over People's Heads, but whatever. I don't even Know all these Text Messaging Letters and I Still Don't Know what OCDish Means. That's Probably just a Generation Gap Thing. I'm Guessing I'm quite a bit Older then you and Soap and I just Never got into the Texting Thing.
ReplyDeleteThanks Z. Soapster didn't have too much interest in his education as a youth so you are correct in that I read alot. I'm all of 37 for those who'd like to know. As for being over heads, if there's something you don't understand or have familiarity with, for example the IMF, CFR, Illuminati, mesh networking, firearms, or whatever else, then you've two options really. One would be to simply not care about the subject matter and not engage in a discussion where said subject matter is being discussed. Or, you can delve into the subject matter. You needn't be an expert on it (certainly I am not) but at least you'll have a general idea.
ReplyDeleteCome to think of it, discussions regarding religious theology go over my head but I don't complain about it. I could take the time to go to church and learn about various religions but I don't cuz I've no interest in it. I simply don't engage in discussions about religion. Faith isn't my thing.
ReplyDeleteI guess that my Suggestions about not Talking Over People's Heads was nothing more than Marketing Advice, yet if you don't really Care to Market your Ideas, then so be it.
ReplyDeleteI have actually had concerns and issues with the 'received' version of the 9/11 events since 9/12. However, to question said 'received' version has been considered unpatriotic, downright treasonous, anti-American, Socialist, Communist, Fascist, Terrorist, and basically the sum of all things evil.
ReplyDeleteJust to QUESTION these things has been for all intents and purposes verboten. The 'tinfoil hat' gets slapped on and nothing further gets taken seriously.
It is good to remember that those who 'investigated' the events of the day are identical with those who have a vested interest in what you believe happened that day, and who would prefer you believe the 'received' version without further question or debate.
Tis why I said:
ReplyDelete"The funniest thing about it is that the masses are so willing to accept the commission's report on the JFK assassination, Iran Contra affair, 9/11, etc. without realizing that these "independent" commissions are comprised of government officials."
Just one of many beefs I have with Glenn Beck's assertions to "Question with boldness". Apparently he only means certain things.
& that is precisely one of Alex Jones's main beefs with the man.
ReplyDeleteWell it makes perfect flippin' sense to any rational being. I mean how can someone be so distrustful of the government's ability to administer a universal healthcare plan or Social Security or any myriad of things and then in turn be completely trustful of their assessment by an "independent" commission comprised of government bureaucrats?
ReplyDeleteAssinine.
As I said before an institution cannot investigate itself. Saty too should do a blog on this.
ReplyDeleteIt's Interesting, Soap, that you don't Like Glen Beck just because that which he Feels Passionate about is not Identical to that which the most Concerns you. So he hasn't been Questioning the 911 Events. Ok, but does that Discredit everything else he Believes?
ReplyDeleteMaybe he's Concerned that he might get Kicked Off the Air if he was to make something like 911 his Main Cause.
I generally like Glenn Beck and his personal story I find compelling. Was browsing through Arguing with Idiots last night and it's just chockful of information and insight. As a conspiracy theory I don't think 9/11 is the best one but I think Bush got the ball rolling in that direction with his going after Saddam Hussein in an obsessive fashion. I actually worked with a woman at the time who thought there was some connection between 9/11 and Iraq and she found Bush's actions in this regard emotionally cathartic for some reason. Simply put the NeoCons used 9/11 for their own ends and the whole thing appeared conspiratorial because of their undue influence.
ReplyDeleteConspiracy Theories:
ReplyDeleteWe like to conspire, do we not? I was watching some
program on History Channel
called 'UFO Hunters'. I thought 'how silly'. Then,
it turned out they were
'investigating' Dugway Proving Ground. Riding around the perimeter on
bicycles, trying to find out where the Army had transferred its juicy alien
stuff from Area 51.
Z-Man, I was at Dugway for two years. Tell ya what, you ply me with Black Russians and I will
tell stories to make your hair stand on end and you won't sleep for a week:
naturally, I will have to ply you with an overdose of White Russians so you don't remember...
There is odd stuff, bizarre stuff, but UFOs?
Sorry....a lot of people
are well, suckers.
It's got more to do with simply his lack of attention to 9/11 Lista. He's certainly far better than Hannity or god forbid O'Reilly but in the final analysis, he toes the line that Murdoch wants him to toe. Consider the subject of Lincoln, the War to Prevent Southern Independence, and its legacy. Just like Bush 43, they never dare to mention how Lincoln shredded the Constitution in his want to preserve the union.
ReplyDeleteTheir failure to do so plays right into their military industrial complex war machine propaganda.
""Whoever controls the media, the images, controls the culture."
I agree with soap, Glenn Beck stops at a certain point. It's like I'd better go back now.
ReplyDeleteHey BB-Idaho,
ReplyDeleteI Need my History Expert. Care to Comment on the Shredding of the Constitution in Order to Preserve the Union. There were a Few Added Amendments relating to Citizenship and Slavery. What else do I Need to Know?
I've heard this critique, a rare one to be sure from Joe Sobran a kind of paleo-con in the same mold. I guess it has something to do with a strict interpretation of federalism but it's been a long time since I read this stuff. Most of us conservatives have moved on, I call us the progressive conservatives and don't want to rehash whether the Civil War was right or wrong.
ReplyDelete"Going home to Miss Liza
going home to Mississippi.
going HOME to Miss Liza
going home to Mississippi."
I'm with Z-man. Folks interpet the civil war from differing POVs. Lincoln's suspension of habeas corpus, for example.
ReplyDeleteThe admin read Article 1,
sec 9, clause 2-
""The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it." as justification. (the South being considered 'in rebellion)Somewhat later, 'copperheads' noted
(correctly) that the legislature reserves that privilege. Lincoln's excuse was that the legislature was not in session at the time. Folks been arguing ever since..and
wishing for the Old South,
states rights and slaves picking cotton. Soap is consistent in noting the similarities to Gitmo detainees (and I suspect the detention of Japanese by FDR in WWII). For those that think the time of the founding fathers was perfect, the Alien & Sedition Acts of 1798 were
similar, rounding up political opponents to silence them. All these
'stretches' to the constitution were justified
by war or threat of war.
But, since my family fought on both sides in the Civil War, count me
neutral, Lista....
You see the thing though about slavery is it's a form of involuntary servitude and so for me and most conservatives it had nothing at all to do with Southern Independence or principles of federalism. Their rights as human beings were being violated. It wasn't about Southern farmers growing marijuana so federalism can't make any sense if someone's rights are being so egregiously violated.
ReplyDeleteShe Smiles.
ReplyDeleteYou know BB,
I don't know that I was Expecting you to be Neutral about something like Slavery. It's interesting to Consider, though, that Once Slaves Worked in the Fields and now Illegal Immigrants that Work for Wages Below Minimum Wage. Is there an Actual Need there for Labor that if not Free, is at Least Cheap? Just a Thought. Not sure what it Means.
Hi Z,
I'm finding you and I are Often On Line at the Same Time. I Like and Agree with your Comment.
Is there an Actual Need there for Labor that if not Free, is at Least Cheap?
ReplyDeleteThere is an actual need to survive which drives people to accept ridiculously low sums of money for backbreaking work.
I live in an area where migrant workers are a substantial part of the local economy (tobacco). You would not believe how little they work for and what kinds of conditions they live in. Still this is an opportunity to make some money and they do it willingly. And people scream that these people are taking jobs away from good patriotic red-white-and-blue-pissing Americans.
I challenge anyone to go out and crop tobacco for ten hours a day at $7 an hour, and then tell me you're willing to do it 6 days a week (like they do).
Nobody's 'taking these jobs' from Americans. The average American wouldn't work this job. We've indoctrinated our youth that they've got to have college educations, smartphones, and important desk jobs. Trades are out; there's no glamour in being a mechanic, an electrician, or a steamfitter. And so, since we're too good for manual labour, we have come to rely more and more for our necessities to be performed by a menial class. In many areas these 'undesirable' jobs are being done by immigrants. And despite the fact that they provide necessary services (that in many cases we wouldn't do ourselves), we then turn the tables and claim that they're 'stealing' jobs from Americans.
Capitalism is like this. Companies get laws changed in American Samoa to make labour midievally cheaper, then ship their manufacturing there and claim that it's mainland American tax rates that 'force' them to send jobs elsewhere. Companies send plants to Mexico and other places where people are willing to work at rates that wouldn't support an anorexic living in a shoebox in America, and blame it on the American government. Republicans, conservatives and pro-capitalists everywhere take up the rallying cry that yes, it's the government's fault; OF COURSE these companies would give up their .89/hr labour costs and ship back to the US if only this ObamUnist government would lower the taxes.... and in reality it's all so much bullshit... they will NEVER bring work to the US as long as they can exploit workers for less in other countries. Even if there was NO TAXATION in the US, companies would STILL be employing overseas workers at 1/20 of what they'd have to pay here.
We love our capitalism...
Lista, I'm not neutral on slavery.
ReplyDeleteI'm neutral on the machinations of the Lincoln
administration. (Which BTW, were no worse than that of Jefferson Davis
and his seceeded rump state). My point simply being that whenever constitutional aberrations
occur, the excuse is always war.
Saty's comment,
ReplyDeleteWOW, THIS IS GOOD!
uh.. wait...
ReplyDelete..what?
You Know BB,
ReplyDeleteYour Use of the Word "Machinations" does not Imply a Neutral Position. I guess a Scheme or a Plot could be Neutral, but Usually it's not. So Many of these Words have Negative Connotations, though I Guess a Plan can be Neutral or even Positive. Whatever.