Tuesday, April 23, 2013
I'm now in favor of medical marijuana
...provided you put it in pill or capsule form. Isolate the main medicinal analgesic element in pot and put it in a tablet and folks will quickly lose interest in it as an issue. You'd think we didn't have good pain management until weed came along. What's Oxycontin anyway a pussy drug? it's good and all but you can't smoke it. It's all about getting in touch with your inner Munchhausen, your purported bad back now gives you an excuse to go to the medical dispensary in states where this is legal. Help your cancer management and alter your mind at the same time, the two work in tandem and that's the whole point. Smoking medical weed as opposed to taking a pot pill is kinda like seeing a sex surrogate instead of consulting a textbook to work out your sexual problems and save your marriage - "I'm doing this for us honey."
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Medical marijuana is not covered by
ReplyDeletehealth insurance. The category consists of women wanting birth control pills and pot heads .
We've been using marijuana in pill form for years. See MARINOL.
ReplyDeleteI don't think you can compare one form to another.
The pro-smokers argue that the Marinol contains a very few of the
ReplyDeletecanniboids (they all tend to affect neuroreceptors). In particular they argue the anti-carcinogenicity of the natural
terpeonids in the smoke. Others in
the medical profession point out
the known carcinogenicity of several terpenoids, as known to
exist in cigarette smoke. Such
are the pros and cons. Prince Albert pipe tobacco and brandy seem to work pretty good on my
neuroreceptors.....dunno.
We use Marinol for appetite stimulation, actually... gives you the munchies.
ReplyDeleteI would definitely argue that the efficacy and the whole pharmacokinetics of marijuana vary greatly with how you take it. I've taken different forms of lots of drugs and you can't compare, for example, oral morphine with IV morphine.
This doesn't even take into account an individual's ability to absorb. Let's say you have someone with hepatic cancer or some form of digestive cancer... what good is a pill going to do them if they have no capacity for absorption? Even someone like me with a short gut, I can't take extended release formulations because I simply don't have the absorptive capability to make it useful. I can't even break down a simple capsule; everything has to be opened or split. So for me, Seroquel ER is out of the question. I might as well take a handful of peanut M&Ms.
The point becomes that it's just a stigma because it's marijuana and people think that somehow if you're smoking it, you're just a pothead and can't really be ill.
Do you know how many ways you can kill yourself with a Fentanyl patch, how many different ways you can get that drug into your system in quantities sufficient to cause death?
Do you want me to list them for you?
I've heard of Marinol, 60 Minutes did a piece on it years ago but betcha most people haven't heard of Marinol precisely for the reason I stated in my blog: to smoke it is more exciting than to take it in a pill form. The debate is really about the right to medically toke and I'm sayin' it's a phony issue. If we already have good pain management then folks just want an easy excuse to light up a joint.
ReplyDeleteMarinol isn't used for pain from cancer. It's used as an appetite stimulant.
ReplyDeleteThat's why people haven't heard of it.
And the whole reason that marijuana came to the forefront is because cancer patients don't always HAVE good pain control and the drugs they use are many times obscenely inflated in price, simply because they're cancer drugs.
And when you're dying of cancer, you're not looking for a thrill, you're looking for some relief from pain. And you don't really care what you have to do to make that pain go away. I think if people had a viable alternative they'd take it.
If you've ever watched someone die from it you'll know what I mean.
Here's a thought: sure marijuana will dull your pain from whatever medical ailment you're suffering from because you're in an altered state of consciousness. Maybe you're aware of the pain on some level but it's more distant, detached and you can kinda go outside of yourself and study it objectively because you're on that altered plane. Researching PCP or phencyclidine recently and the same thing, even if you're aware of some pain it's not unbearable. When I had my groin pull sure the brandy at night makes you think of other things, you kinda forget your pain for awhile. So what I'm stipulating here is that yes pot can manage your pain but not for the reasons pot advocates are saying. You're simply on another plane at that point, you'll forget your cancer pain AND your third divorce:)
ReplyDeleteAnd btw, you CAN smoke Oxycontin. You can snort it, you can melt it and shoot it, you can crush it and suck on it, you can do all of that.
ReplyDeleteHave you ever seen someone with cancer on morphine? I remember being sent down one night from general medicine to oncology and almost having a stroke seeing someone getting 200 (TWO HUNDRED) milligrams of morphine an hour.
Cancer pain is like that. And no, I don't think it has to do with altered states of consciousness. That guy was just as lucid as me. As someone who's had love affairs with drugs off and on for about ever I can tell you that on one occasion I took 180mg of oxycontin and crushed it and waited for the rapture, and ended up just going to Walmart a very disappointed and nauseous girl. I've taken (literally) a dozen Percocet and gone to class. And I was a lightweight.
I think you're way overrating that altered states of consciousness thing.
Well if you reread my comment (^) I do say you still have some pain but because of the altered state of consciousness that experience of pain becomes more detached, more distant and it's like you can put it in a jar and put it on the shelf and study it. W/Phencyclidine depersonalization and derealization is a part of it, becoming detached from your environment, from yourself. Ego death it's called and I think you're underrating my point here.
ReplyDeleteBut my main point is I'm just NOT buying this argument that seems to go along the lines of we don't have adequate pain management and therefore some magical ingredient in pot is the only thing that can actually and adequately manage it despite years and years and decades and decades of Science, herbology etc. It's the overinflation of pot's sole importance and alleged superiority as compared to other medicinal drugs that I think is a big part of the Propaganda effort here. Lastly a contradiction, you have people who are extremely anti-smoking but just as fervently pro-pot so for these people tobacco is downright bad but weed is somehow good for you. From a Health perspective that seems downright paradoxical don't you think?
ReplyDeleteNot sure where smoke (pill) cannabis would rank as a pain
ReplyDeletekiller. I take a couple Tylenol nightly for neck arthritis and many years back Demerol made the
pain of kidney stones (which is
aggravating) go right away.
Oooh demerol... you know we don't use that anymore. When I had my gallbladder out they had me on drip demerol for 4 days and I got toxic (no shit) and then psychotic (no shit) as a result. I said things for which I am still apologizing.
ReplyDeleteWhen I had the pancreatitis I had my first introduction to Dilaudid. It was highly effective.
What's funny about potsmokers is they could all be hanging around toking up a storm but as soon as somebody else who doesn't toke but lights up a cig they start connipping. Knew a guy who kept religious charts faithfully and obsessively watched his cholesterol but was a real pothead to the point of devising new ways to smoke it like making an aluminum foil funnel cup. Somehow cigs are bad for you but pot can be ok, can't wrap my head around that one.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't say it isn't bad for your lungs.
ReplyDeleteThe human body isn't designed to inhale smoke.
The benefit might outweigh the risk but certainly I'd say in the long term you're just as likely to end up with lung disease. If not more likely due to the lack of filterage.
Topic change: my new favorite ingredient is shirataki.
ReplyDeleteNot sure what that is. Another topic change: which is worse, the black widow or the brown recluse spider?
ReplyDeleteWhen it comes to biting humans, it is the female black widow, but the male brown recluse. Go figure.
ReplyDeleteWiki:
ReplyDeleteShirataki (白滝?, often written with the hiragana しらたき) are very low carbohydrate, low calorie, thin, translucent, gelatinous traditional Japanese noodles made from devil's tongue yam (elephant yam or the konjac yam).The word "shirataki" means "white waterfall", describing the appearance of these noodles. Largely composed of water and glucomannan, a water-soluble dietary fiber, they have little flavor of their own.
There are two types of shirataki noodles sold in the United States. Traditional shirataki noodles have zero net carbohydrates, no food energy, and no gluten, and they are useful for those on low-carbohydrate diets. Tofu-based shirataki-style noodles are becoming increasingly popular in U.S. supermarkets and health food stores. They have a much shorter shelf life and require refrigeration even before opening. Tofu-based noodles contain a minimal amount of carbohydrate.
Spiders:
They are both bad and both very common here. I have seen seriously ugly spider bites. We took care of a guy who had a brown recluse bite on his forearm and it got necrotic. In order to save the limb they had to take out a large chunk of the muscles of his forearm (all the necrotic tissue and enough of the good around it). It was one of those deep, gouge like wounds, takes forever to heal, leaves a nasty scar, plus losing that much muscle tissue necessarily affects mobility/usage.
They're everywhere here. The best advice is to be on the lookout especially in dark corners, under houses, in attics, and get treatment RIGHT AWAY for any kind of a bite, before it gets infected, even if you aren't sure what kind of spider it was.
So basically you'd have to infuse some type of flavor into the shirataki noodle, depends on what you put in the boiling water. I'd be willing to try it as I'm willing to try almost anything. There's some Japanese markets on Central Ave. in Westchester so I could check it out. My friend likes seaweed but I never had.
ReplyDeleteBrown recluses began I believe in the Texas or lower middle states area but apparently can now be found in any of the 48 contiguous states as they commonly get transported in furniture and clothing when people move. Dermanecrosis vs. the neurotoxin of the black widow - I'll say this, my bug book says after several days of agony most people survive the bite of the widow but with the recluse ya got that ugly crater-like wound with the red zone and crust that takes months to heal. Take your pick folks!
ReplyDeleteIt seems the southern states have more poisonous creatures..fire ants, killer bees, scorpions etc.
ReplyDeleteWhen I was in Alabama for military
training, a side hobby was whacking
copperheads with a rifle butt, you'd think they would have been
wiped out....
Yes the whole thing with the shirataki is having a good broth or something for it to soak up. I use something along the lines of soy sauce, asian worcestershire sauce, black sesame oil and a generous dollop of sambal oelek OR just some hot peppers of whatever type. Point is it needs to be a rather strong flavored base. Anyway they're kinda stretchy and rubbery and that turns a lot of people off but I like them :) I want to lose 20 pounds by September 1 so I like them even more.
ReplyDeleteHave you done anything different with your settings? I was trying to get here today on my Berry and it looked all different and I couldn't see comments at all. Is there a different address for the mobile view or something?
ReplyDeleteI've been playing around with the settings of late but today I just set it to Default again so whatever you had before you should have now. I haven't been able to get a mobile view on my own cell and as a result it eats up my minutes if I go there. Of course I could go to Wi-Fi at Barnes & Noble like I did the other day but that whole thing is new to me and I have to get used to it.
ReplyDeleteDoesn't seem to be a different address for the mobile view as there is for Drudge. One of the most common topics/complaints on tech support forums like at Droid is when the message "page too large - open mobile site" comes up and nobody really knows what to do. I've come to this conclusion though, I've had good browsing experiences on my LG840G and frustrating ones too and seems to me if you wanna do serious computer work you have to go with a regular computer even a tablet. You kinda get addicted to the Web thing on the cell and I'm still studying the camera/camcorder capabilities too. Funny but I don't really use my thing for rapping with people that much, I mean if that were the case I would've stuck with a regular cell (ah how boring!).
ReplyDeleteYou are so right BB, even as a kid and my hobby even then was herpetology I came to the conclusion early on that the real dastardly creatures are down South and out West. Cottonmouths, Diamondback Rattlers, your coral snakes, gila monsters scorpions et al. Actually most scorpions in this country are not that deadly, no worse than a bee sting according to one field guide. Did you know the centipede has venom if it bites you?
ReplyDeleteMy piriformis/groin pull thing, you know you definitely gave me an idea when you said it could be something leftover from the original Lyme. My latest thought was you could get bitten by a poisonous spider and not even know it or have a reaction right away according to one or two books/sites I've read. There was the pain in the groin, the pain in the butt, the pain going down the left leg and common sense says your tired achy muscles should get better sooner rather than later but this thing took a really long time and dragged on. The pain was always at night and mostly in the morning with the whole middle of the day being a reprieve so I was able to work. I've been drinking Rooibos tea lately mainly because it's allergy season but also Rooibos is a classic detox tea so I figured what could it hurt ya know? Anyways reading an article recently that JFK got butt shots from a Dr. Feelgood for his chronic back pain and going through this thing made me definitely less judgemental. You simply get tired of the pain all the time, chronic pain and so anyways you can google it but JFK, MM, Truman Capote and alot of other famous people got these illegal meth shots and I can't really judge that:)
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Rooibos is now quite easy to find in stores, Twinings makes a great rooibos but kinkeliba another great medicinal African tea from the Senegal region is so much harder to find even in some African food markets here. Kinkeliba has helped me on so many levels but it's quite a trip from Yonkers to Poughkeepsie just to get it.
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