I thought about this after I left Mass yesterday. It's not forgive but remember but it's like the subject doesn't even exist anymore. Just ask Hillary.
Not really Beth or to put it another way I know when people are being phony like that time my boss called me up on the phone ranting and raving and I told his boss and the next day he apologized to me, he only did that 'cause he had to and I haven't forgotten it. You don't have to be a chump in other words which my friend says is sometimes the problem with Christianity. In the majority of cases though I do live this message. Now Eliot Spite-zer's wife Silda who's sticking with her man, that's just stupid and that's not what I'm talking about.
I don't recall if this was something you said previously, or something from a homily at my church, but with regards to forgiveness and it being like it never happened, that is exactly what God does when we confess our sins, they disappear as far as God is concerned. So on our judgment day, if we have asked for forgiveness and are truly sorry, then we don't need to worry about it being held against us, it has been forgotten by God. But for those we did not seek forgiveness, we would need to make amends.
I still love that blog Lista did some time ago about the people who've hurt us and they're totally clueless how they hurt us or even that they hurt us. The way she put it is like they get off scot-free or something. I have to go back and reread it, it was one of her best imo. I was thinking in my own life things that happened years and years ago, something somebody did to you and if you met them on the street would they even remember and apologize? I read somewhere there's such a thing as unconditional forgiveness where you forgive somebody even though they have no idea of their wrong yet, that's a little hard for me.
Of course not, I was talking about stuff that pre-dates us even meeting online, anything else is small potatoes. Digging in the dirt stuff, you move on with your life but a wee "I'm sorry" would be nice. You know there's still people who owe me money?
I thought about this after I left Mass yesterday. It's not forgive but remember but it's like the subject doesn't even exist anymore. Just ask Hillary.
ReplyDeleteYou live this message very well from what I can tell.
ReplyDeleteNot really Beth or to put it another way I know when people are being phony like that time my boss called me up on the phone ranting and raving and I told his boss and the next day he apologized to me, he only did that 'cause he had to and I haven't forgotten it. You don't have to be a chump in other words which my friend says is sometimes the problem with Christianity. In the majority of cases though I do live this message. Now Eliot Spite-zer's wife Silda who's sticking with her man, that's just stupid and that's not what I'm talking about.
ReplyDeleteI didn't mean to imply you were a chump, I was being sincere.
ReplyDeleteNo, my friend said that when we were conversating once, he said that's one of the negatives of a poorly understood Christianity.
ReplyDeleteI don't recall if this was something you said previously, or something from a homily at my church, but with regards to forgiveness and it being like it never happened, that is exactly what God does when we confess our sins, they disappear as far as God is concerned. So on our judgment day, if we have asked for forgiveness and are truly sorry, then we don't need to worry about it being held against us, it has been forgotten by God. But for those we did not seek forgiveness, we would need to make amends.
ReplyDeleteI still love that blog Lista did some time ago about the people who've hurt us and they're totally clueless how they hurt us or even that they hurt us. The way she put it is like they get off scot-free or something. I have to go back and reread it, it was one of her best imo. I was thinking in my own life things that happened years and years ago, something somebody did to you and if you met them on the street would they even remember and apologize? I read somewhere there's such a thing as unconditional forgiveness where you forgive somebody even though they have no idea of their wrong yet, that's a little hard for me.
ReplyDeleteIs there an apology I owe you?
ReplyDeleteOf course not, I was talking about stuff that pre-dates us even meeting online, anything else is small potatoes. Digging in the dirt stuff, you move on with your life but a wee "I'm sorry" would be nice. You know there's still people who owe me money?
ReplyDeleteJust checking.
ReplyDeleteI need to go offline, take care and rest well tonight.