Robert Bork, conservative icon, should've been on the Court and helped knock down some pretty bad decisions but I've really changed over time on this one. So I was channel-surfing the other night and came across some program on the Constitution on NJN2 the theme being Original Intent vs. an Evolving Constitution. Now I'm mainly an originalist myself but I actually found myself agreeing with at least one of the libs on the program who said what conservatives like Bork really want is to go back to the old days and by old days I mean olde olde days, it's like they're stuck in a kind of Victorian timewarp, Oscar Wilde got what was coming to him and so there was Bork saying things like liberals have used the courts to push sexual permissiveness, "to create a right to homosexual sodomy"...ok let's stop right here and have a cup of coffee.
Of all the conservatives who populate our corner of the conservative blogosphere, hell conservatives in general, is there anyone out there who seriously wants to put folks in jail who have gay sex with each other? I'm not talking morality here, views and tastes differ but should anal sex even be included within the purview of the Law? I'm finding Bork's brand of conservatism to be......disturbing. So what other acts of a sexual nature is Bork ok with a legislature or political body banning? Bork strikes me as the kind of guy if his wife was starting to do something orally creative he'd push her off and go "get off me bitch!" Again when it comes to Sex opinions definitely differ, folks do all kinds of freaky things in their early years they may regret later on in Life but again this properly falls within the sphere of personal morality and not law and I think most folks would agree it's far better to ponder on your life and the things you should or shouldn't have done in the safety and privacy of your living room with a bottle of Jack with the tv droning on in the background than in a prison cell.
Think of the conservative landscape out there and how vast it is. At one end you have your libertarians smoking dope, getting down with the 'hos but otherwise being very fiscally conservative and for smaller government. In the middle you have your soccer Moms, PTA gals, committee members who go food shopping, attend the neighborhood watch meeting, vote straight Republican (even McCain) and otherwise live quiet suburban lives. Then all the way around the other side of the globe intrepidly trudging across the frozen tundra in Viking helmut sun glistening off their frozen snot are folks like Bork harpooning those buggering homos on the ice floes. Welcome to the Land of the Strict Constructionists, guy masturating in an igloo, tie him up on the sled and bring him in. So how did we all manage to inhabit the same planet?
I remember ol Bork from the Watergate days, Nixon wanted Cox fired for requesting whitehouse tapes. Both Eliot Richardson and William Ruckelshaus resigned in protest. Bork was left and said
ReplyDelete'sure chief, no problem'. He also
felt that corporate mergers were
'good for consumers' heh heh.
But, I just can't abide him with that goatee...looking like Col
Sanders. Just sayin...
..there is some merit though, to the idea that those out on the fringes tend to keep the other fringe honest. Like the 'progessive movement' of such
fuss as of late. Who thinks women should not have the right to vote,
huh?
I hope I didn't upset the Robert Bork Fan Club out there but the more he clarifies the worse it gets. Read his book Slouching Towards Gomorrah and he comes out foursquare for censorship, pretty much takes the position that free speech means only political speech. The goatee man, like my Mom would say why do you want to look stupid?
ReplyDeleteYou know the fringe -- I used to put down the Vast Middle for being boring, for practicing herd mentalities, for not having balls to think outside the Box but lately the more I look at fringes I go EWWWWWW!!! 'Member reading some fringe pre-Vatican 2 Catholic group's lit, forget the name but they had a big problem with even natural birth control or natural family planning (NFP) as it's called, practically called John Paul 2 too liberal since apparently it's only licit to have sex when you want a kid and even then do it quickly and put a pillow over your heads.
ReplyDeleteIt's getting real hard to like the fringe lately. Now God knows conspiracy theorists get enough grief and while I do discuss conspiracy theories at my blog I generally don't endorse them. It's not that I'm not open-minded but generally they disappoint. Now for me any hallmark of a conspiracy theory being true is they come after you for trying to shed light on the Truth so if the 9/11 truthers were really onto something Charlie Sheen would be dead right now and not making a crappy sitcom.
And here I thought strict constitutionalism meant the government not getting into regulating sexuality, instead leaving that to be a subject dealt with at the local level, in the provinces of morality and churches, or at home (or the car, or roadside restrooms, or the shady spot in the woods, or the choir loft at said church, or the back corner of the local bookstore, etc).
ReplyDeleteAnd what would Bork think about the fleshlight?
Exactly Patrick. Now Bork and most social conservatives seem to frame these things as always coming from the Left, the Left wants orgies yada yada but why does it always have to be framed in terms of the Left has evil designs on the world? How 'bout just saying it's stupid to put homosexuals in jail? has nothing to do with a left-wing agenda.
ReplyDeleteRick Santorum doesn't even think you have the right to consensual sex WITHIN YOUR HOME.
ReplyDeleteIf I can't have it here at home, wtf CAN I have it?
z-man: Actually, I'm the one who wants the orgies, yada yada. :)
ReplyDeleteWHOA WHOA WHOA, there's alot here to digest. Rick Santorum, who what where when and how? Well Patrick then don't move to Hastings NY. Small town, folks just seem to walk around all day without leaving the village. Hot spots - food shopping and the library, can't say there's much by way of debauchery going on here. Actually where IS all the moral depravity taking place, is it in the phone book?
ReplyDeleteFriend and I were talking, what would happen if you got rejected by a fat chick? could you mentally recover? We were also talking if you were blessed with a big package you could always fall back on porn when times got tough. Let's say you got a Ron Jeremy thing going on and your boss and your job are pissing you off, you have LEVERAGE and can walk in one day and tell everyone to go fuck themselves - Alas. Another guy told me the way to get chicks to be attracted to you is when you get married and have that ring on your finger or else become a priest, must be the forbidden fruit thing. Let's face it, most nights we just get hammered.
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