Wednesday, October 17, 2012

The 2nd Debate not quite the debacle of the first

I watched a good chunk of it the town hall affair of undecideds at Hofstra but wasn't familiar with the Crowley CNN woman as mod.  Obama was better but lately I've become distracted by Romney's hair, get a Wahl guide comb out please!  There must have been some polling done on the whole BC thing as Obama seems to feel very comfortable bringing it up, go social.  I was tired from work and all but Obama seemed to bring it up apropos of nothing really but it's predictable by now, when Obama feels a lack of confidence arguing the economy it's like he holds out his hand, opens it and says "look I have a contraceptive pill, I'm for it."  He brings up PP as if it's some kind of charity run by the Dalai Lama and a cross with Big Bird and you have to be evil to even think of defunding it.  Let me flesh something out here as there was the vaguest hint of a future ad-hominem by one of my more liberal commenters.  Um if I might parse something here I never said Sex is not necessary only that it's not medically necessary.  An orgiast and a monk can both live to be 102 and it's a philosophical thing to judge who is the happier but their bodies function just the same although the monk has his abbey ale to dull the pain.  Now BB and I are both pro-drinking and pro-pipesmoking but that doesn't make them medically necessary so there's a hell of a lot that Life has to offer but that doesn't make them critical from a purely medical the barest minimum to continue life POV (for the life of me I don't know why this is such a controversial point).  I think what it is is that Sex is such an integral part of human life that many of us feel that medical insurance needs to cover at least certain aspects of it and if it's not covered then by golly there needs to be a Law.  Look soap could pay for twenty free lap dances for me with a special visit to the VIP Room thrown in and my position would still be the same and I'd blog the same comments.  Logic doesn't change but for many folks we get into Icky Territory in a hurry when folks like Sandra Fluke want some aspect of picking up the tab for their sex'chal needs.  All of a sudden you have images of pumping buttocks and slapping scrotums whereas before you were quite tolerant because folks paid for their own lifestyle choices.  I myself would never think of billing my insurance company for some Trojans or making an issue of it with the Catholic Church.  Look if I worked as an usher in a church somewhere I wouldn't expect the local Bishop to reimburse me, wouldn't even cross my mind but that's because I'm not ideological and Obama and his supporters are.  Ideologues always have to ramp it up a notch and get you in line with their way of thinking and if Romney had any cojones he would have simply said on national TV pay for your own shit.  Anyway getting back to the debate Romney was strong as usual and had a good command of the, yes facts as when he pointed out Obama cut permits and licenses for drilling and energy exploration on federal lands.  Now Obama said no I didn't but if he were honest he'd simply say yes I care for the snail darter and Al Gore so it's like you always get sucked into your opponent's points instead of standing your own ground but at any rate it was a good show.  Obama's sexual socio/economic message -- when the economy sucks it's always PP+BC+RC which somehow you might be out of a job but I got ya covered, I'll hook you up:)

44 comments:

  1. My Argonaut squash won 8th place at the NC State Fair.

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  2. Didn't watch much; baseball game on
    another channel..and went to bed
    early as usual and read the book version of Ken Burns 'The War'.
    1. Your dad would really like it.
    2. When PBS is gone, we won't have
    that good stuff anymore because
    3. Real history doesn't sell

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  3. You know there's a small library somewheres in rural CT and Tom Brokaw once donated a whole history book collection and the librarian once said nobody checks 'em out, they all go for the Danielle Steel so there ya go.

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  4. Obama, Hillary, Rice & Biden are all a disgrace to America.

    And come next year I hope and pray that these 4 are added to the rest of those who are Unemployed.

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  5. Not getting why it is imcumbent on your employer to provide birth control. Think about it, when you're on a job interview do you go at the end "oh one more thing will you provide my birth control needs?" Obama at a campaign stop in VA, economy still ailing and he talks about this with his cute new catchphrase "Romnesia." Kind of a weird disconnect, the country's really hurting and he acts like BC is the country's #1 issue right now. Dolan shouldn't have invited him to the Al Smith Dinner.

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  6. It is not incumbent on your employer to provide anything.
    If and when Ralph Reed is secretary of religion, you may have your wish. ..but consider..
    denying birth control has been known to cause tinnitis.

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  7. I thought Dolan did a good job at the Al Smith dinner. Seems like
    a regular guy for a cardinal.

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  8. ..and again, another evangelical
    goes Gingerich ...

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  9. Dolan first. You know the Catholic Church has a way of happily taking it up the ass. Reminds me of a company who goes bankrupt then gets concessions from the union like no raises for a few years and the workers all stay. Taking it up the ass,

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  10. I think you dream about Ralph Reed BB and wake up in a cold sweat. 'Tis a weird campaign, Obama ads in some states make it sound like Romney is against contraceptives and once assuming office his first act will be to ban them. It's passing strange, I think Obama is actually using campaign strategies that were really devised for Rick Santorum. Obama mentioned PP 5X the other day at a campaign stop, apparently never got the memo that PP is controversial. To my knowledge not one PP clinic has a mammogram machine.

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  11. Yeah read your hyperlink. Reminds me of the job they're now doing to the late Alfred Hitchcock. New movie on cable about his alleged obsession with actress Tippi Hedren, makes him out to be a real creep. Hitchcock was also a devoted Catholic throughout his life and...just makes you wonder about motives is all.

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  12. '..dream about Ralph Reed BB and wake up in a cold sweat.' I consider him the Lee Attwater of
    rightwing Christianity, but no-
    no nightmares. Dreams are odd.
    The cold sweat ones I have involve
    work and travel. A repeater is visiting an ammunition factory and getting lost between first anneal
    and the priming operation...I wander for what seems like hours,
    getting more and more frustrated.
    Another repeater is one that involves a cast of characters from
    my many years...a girl from Jr. High, my basic training drill sergeant, my best boss, my worst boss, and a fat kid from church...
    we get lost in the woods, a storm
    is approaching...and they turn and
    say "Now what do we do, BB?
    ..lot of pressure on a guy that
    gets lost in a bullet factory, ya
    know? Interesting, my wife, who
    has been retired 10 years, still
    has nightmares about final exams
    in college. Electrical discharges in the synapes, but must have some
    significance, go figure.

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  13. Frigging liberals have an answer for every thing. A libtard quasi-friend and I had a discussion and I told her I hated for my tax money being used for birth control. The answer--would you rather pay for the abortion? or to raise the unwanted kid?

    NO, I would prefer that the idiots STOP screwing or buy their own GD birth control! I always bought my own rubbers/raincoats/condoms! And then I paid for my own vasectomy, with cash and PAIN!! What IDIOTS those leftards are! GRRRRR!!! Is there ANYTHING that they feel comfortable buying for themselves? Frigging suckpumps!

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  14. AA said: "Frigging liberals have an answer for every thing"

    Oh my Goodness, I hope that the Queen of Progressiveness don't dear that.
    Or that Holier than thou Liberal Missionary!

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  15. I don't like my tax dollars going to war profiteering and foreign aid.

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  16. Hey soap, why don't you join the Wall Street Occupiers?
    You'd fit right in.

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  17. Retire your age old and stale arguments and embrace the truth. Those occupiers know something you seem to have not quite figured out. You can live in denial and evade reality. What you cannot evade are the consequences of said reality. So, what's in your wallet?

    http://dont-tread-on.me/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Cartoon_LOL_02_Federal_Reserve_1912_Coming_Money_Trust.png

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  18. LMAO, in my wallet is a big wad of cash, what's in your's , besides a ACLU card!

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  19. A big wad of cash in your wallet, Darth? Sounds like you're doing very well under President Obama's economy!

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  20. In spite of him!

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  21. BB the Ralph Reed dreams are so horrible you simply don't remember them, blocked 'em out. A recurring dream of mine is that I'm somewhere, most often a big building and I have to find a place to relieve myself and when I finally do find a bathroom it's not adequate in terms of privacy/sanitation, what have you. I actually get sick of that particular theme, hey subconscious it's played out by now!

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  22. A wad of cash. LOL. Damn fool. Paper is debt. It is the currency of slaves.

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  23. & Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke just instituted QE3 or Quantitative Easing which basically means they can just print as much damn money as they want and cause inflation. Many are saying the election may hinge on this: Obama wants to keep Bernanke and Romney would replace him. Alan Greenspan was more influenced by Ayn Rand and the two became good friends although you never quite knew what the man was saying. Frankly speaking Bernanke scares the hell out of me, you talk about your Ralph Reed BB but this guy coupled with Obama for four more years, I shudder!

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  24. Romney is no more anti-fed than Obama. His "success" made possible by the fed.

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  25. Bernanke scares you? According to
    FoxNews (fair & balanced for the
    alternate reality folk):
    "Romney’s short list is led by Hubbard, who is currently the campaign’s chief economic adviser as well as dean of the Columbia University Graduate School of Business.
    Like Bernanke, Hubbard led Bush’s CEA from 2001 until 2003 and was also on the short list to replace Alan Greenspan in 2005.
    Ironically, Hubbard recently said Romney should consider keeping Bernanke on board should he win in November."
    ..too bad Ryan is his VP choice:
    he is supposed to be some sort of
    economics expert, once a huge Ayn
    Rand groupie..until he found out
    she was an atheist...BB Shrugged.

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  26. Currency of slaves, Chris?

    What do you buy your groceries with, gold bars?

    Cmon. The level of pretension is getting mighty high.

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  27. We are talking about excess capital Saty. Anyo e with excess cash sitti g in a savings account or in their wallet or under a mattress is a fool. But to your question, bitcoin or silver as much as possible.

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  28. The pretentiousness remains. All the love in the world, but damn, man.

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  29. I mean, regardless of how high you build the tower you sit in as you look down on the rest of society, shedding tears of pity for the poor ignorant fools, you still live in that same society. No matter how much you bemoan it, how much you affect to insulate yourself from it, you still live in it; you're not an island. Tell me, does your local Walmart accept bitcoin? I imagine you get your Country Crock from some independent dealer housed in an underground concrete bunker who does.

    This is half the problem I have with people; this propensity to imagine that they sit high, considering themselves more intelligent than the rest of society, but with no corresponding inclination to help or to teach; simply to sit there in a self-created illusion of pseudo-elitism, of superiority, and of general snobbery.

    And then it occurs to me to wonder whether this elitism is any different than the elitism of the 'regular' rich, those who do it in the framework we have now... and I determine that it is not.

    The measure of a society or a civilization is counted in how it views those less fortunate and in what it does about them.

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  30. I don't shop at Walmart and I don't buy Country Crock. I live and act in accordance with the values and virtues that I espouse and believe and I am always interested in working with others who believe, espouse, and live and act with those same values. We do this all in a society of moochers, parasites, and immorals and evil doers all the while asking nothing of anyone save to either join or ranks or get out of our way and do not stifle our ability to continue living our lives in our way. I hope that is crystal clear.

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  31. In light of your "moochers and parasites" comment I think you might find this article (linked! thank you BB) interesting. I certainly did.

    I stand by my opinion.

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  32. You've got yours and I have mine but do presume to think you know or understand the workings and application of libertarian/agorist/anarcho-capitalist theory because your "bunker" comment clearly illustrates that you have a long way to go.

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  33. Same goes for your bitcoin and Walmart comment. It's a ridiculous statement on par with asking why the don't sell condoms at the Christian bookstore.

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  34. Anarcho-capitalism, wonder why no Republican has run on that yet. I once posed the question to soap when the day comes when he retires will he return all those social security checks the government is gonna send him? He never got back to us on that.

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  35. I am quite certain those checks won't be worth the paper they're printed on.

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  36. That doesn't mean he's not gonna cash them, Z.

    Just means he's gonna be all that way while he's standin in line at the bank.

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  37. The bank? Bwahahahaha oh goodness u haven't learned a thing.

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  38. Chris, if you're so disillusioned and pitying of the rest of us, why not just get back in the ivory tower with your organic black market whatever and leave everyone else alone? It's not like you actually care or want to help.. from here it seems like a self-aggrandizement tour, enjoying that sense of superiority.

    So since you're more priveleged, more intelligent, more informed than the rest of the lumpen, why are you wasting your time here? Certainly not out of some sense of duty or civic responsibility. Does it just feel good to look down from such an altitude?

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  39. I get Saty's point though, even though you may be right on alot of points you live in Society unless you're a hermit or a recluse and generally there's certain ways to society and its government so like it or not you're gonna receive those SS checks later on in your life. It's like I'm idealistic too and I'd like to retire now quite frankly but the infrastructure is set up to mean I have to wait until I'm 62 so on so many fronts there's not much choice involved. It's fine to be a system-hater but you still live in that system.

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  40. The Amish do not pay into Social Security nor do they receive SS checks.

    They had to go before the government and receive special permission to do so. Instead, they rely on their community for support.

    Perhaps a late-in-life conversion is in order. Let me know how you look in those suspenders and the beard.

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  41. If you're addressing this to me NO, I'm more willing to live and work within the system than soapster but now that you mention them they seem to be more in the overall libertarian spirit don't they?

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  42. I was referring to Chris, actually.

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  43. The first Amish to smoke a joint.

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