The Hollywood mass trauma over Donald Trump's victory continues, the mass hemorrhaging. I'm not mad about this but it is curious. Of course they are entitled to their pov but why is it always the same? Actress Jennifer Lawrence recently penned a major essay saying we should all feel enraged and other hyperventilations. I disagree alot with many of Rush's theories and opinings, haven't listened to him in years but the only thing I can come up with is as he once said. Modern-day actors and actresses are so incredibly wealthy that deep down they actually feel guilty about it:)
Her net worth is $110 million. Limbaugh's is $470 million.
ReplyDeleteMaybe he feels guilty that she does and he doesn't? Showbiz has always been dependably progressive while business has always been dependably conservative, with a few flyers in either group. Trump's net worth is $3.7 billion: not only no smidgeon of guilt over not paying taxes, but brags about it. We all have different levels of
conscience. Its what we do.
I honestly think from a psychological perspective Hollywood is liberal because of guilt. They really don't hang out with the homeless or invite the poverty-stricken to their parties so what better way to assuage their collective conscience than to vote the straight Democratic ticket (they'll take care of you). If I had to hazard a guess I'd say the majority of them vote.
ReplyDeleteGuilt never bothered Moses...er, I mean Charlton Heston, Ronald Reagan and Chuck Norris. There is the possibility that the stage draw that type..you know,
Deletethe little liberal Kindergartner that wants to be
Hamlet in the elementary school play? For years the
explosives processing industry looked for "phlegmatic" types, which seemed to work out well. I've got a Midwest niece that wants to be a Broadway star: you know the routine, all the school
and civic musicals, etc..like thousands of other
wannabees. While guilt may be some sort of driver,
do you suppose that priests and nuns are more or
less guilt ridden than the rest of us? Along those lines of thought pictures, consider Trump in the confessional: Don't bother forgiving me Father, for
I don't sin, never have, too great. You golf? - here's
a pass to one of my courses." Got cousin in Europe,
feels great guilt when she kills a spider. So, guilty
stars is one of several possibilities.
The thing is this didn't start with Trump. It goes way back. Hollywood wasn't keen on Bush either. IMO guilt can and is a great driver e.g. a CEO who lays off a large amount of workers but is overly kind to animals.
DeleteWhat I'm getting at is a celeb who drives around in a Lamberghini but votes for welfare it all kind of balances out. Don't hate me because I rake in millions from mediocre movies.
DeleteAlt-Theory: consider a way of looking at progressive
Deletetypes as empathetic (eg. concerned about other's rights) vs conservative types (eg. concerned about
their own rights, not those of others). Meld that
proposition into step 2: entertainers and actors
require significant empathy to portray their characters. It follows that they would be progressive. The generality in either case (guilt or empathy) as usual, has its exceptions.
That might make sense I suppose but I don't think anyone votes for or against someone based on how a celebrity feels.
DeleteI wouldn't think so either. On the other hand, Trump is a celebrity, and his voters were hardly
Deleteendorsing his political experience (nil). Let's use the old Sarah Palin dialectic to explain the
Trumphenom: it is 'hopey-changey'.
I buy into that empathy theory. Also, many celebrities and creative types live outside of the norm. There are so many gay actors/actresses, even so many Jews (who get their own special brand of discrimination), you would think that they would understand the feeling of what it is to live outside of a culture or as a member of a targeted group and react accordingly. For those WASPy Hollywood types you have Chuck Norris as your hero and predictably Republican. On the other hand most rock stars are shining antiestablishment types and then you have Ted Nugent, so go figure. Maybe Cat Scratch Fever will be the new national anthem? Either way it's true that the majority of creative types are progressive.
ReplyDeleteMy mother is slowly coming around to talking to me again. It doesn't change a thing about my newfound clarity in seeing her as a (closet perhaps) racist and a xenophobe. I've spent a lot of time thinking about this. I don't think she voted FOR Trump as much as voted AGAINST Hillary but the outcome is the same, she supported the racist demagogue with all he stands for. The alt right is having a field day. I read a report that at one of their celebrations the night was ended with HEIL TRUMP, HEIL TO VICTORY. You cannot deny that the supremacist fringe has both deeper roots than anyone imagined and that it will have effects on our future. My mother was decidedly not racist growing up (on the other hand I never came home with someone from another race) and I feel like maybe she deserves a break from the racist accusation but on the other hand she voted for the man when he was out in plain daylight with it. I feel like she has to own that and be responsible for it along with every other person who voted for him, regardless of motivation. You own this. You own the KKK victory parade. You own the resurgence of torture. You own the demonization of immigrants, the surge in hate crime, the woman threatened with being set on fire unless she took off her hijab. Trump is not personally responsible for those things but he has fostered an environment that normalizes it and even glorifies it. Every person who supported his campaign supported that environment and so takes part of the responsibility for the actions that follow.
I wish I could say the electoral college could fix this. I do think we need to go to just the popular vote but nothing is going to change the outcome of this election. We just need to hunker down, keep protesting, keep working on Congress and support the ACLU as much as possible. I don't know how we're going to make it.
Are you gonna survive this?
ReplyDeleteKanye West has said he didn't vote but if he would've voted it would have been Trump. Chew on that for a while.
ReplyDeleteKanye West hasn't been right since his mother died. Plus, he's part of the Kardashian clan. I don't trust him to put his shirt on properly by himself, much less cast a vote.
ReplyDeleteAm I gonna survive? I have to wonder that for all of us.
Reince Priebus: is that a Slovakian car or a new rheumatism
ReplyDeletepill?
Since I enjoy music videos I had once downloaded Katy Perry's "E.T." video. It was well made except it had two portions featuring Kanye West which didn't add anything. I eventually deleted it out of sheer annoyance.
ReplyDeleteIn the E-fun department, we note "Nearly 1 million pieces of malicious software are published each day.."
ReplyDeleteIn the Old Age department, Rudy Giuliani is four years younger than me..so how come he looks so damn old?
Trump needs to stop tweeting and prepare to lead the country. So SNL is unfunny and should go off the air. I've been saying this for years.
ReplyDeleteHe tweets a lot. Volume right up there with teenage
Deletegirls. So far the markets have responded well to his
post election affairs: the S&P 500 up over 8% this year. I'm a bit suspicious that banks and financials
are soaring..their natural tendency if deregulated is
to play with hedge funds, which in the long run often
harm the overall economy. I'd tweet him, but I don't have a tweeter.
I'd be worried if there's a global crisis of historic proportions and he'd still be worried about what Alec Baldwin is doing. PUT AWAY THE TWEETER!!!
DeleteSorry to disappoint y'all but in a wide-ranging interview with the New York Times just now he condemned the leaders of the alt-right movement and as a bonus said there is some connectivity between human activity and climate change. Also he's dropping the inquiry into Hillary's email thing. Maybe the celebrities can get a little more sleep tonight. What to do when someone doesn't turn into the promised ogre is always a problem.
ReplyDeleteWell, he was always a bit progressive...throw in his acting ability and who really knows what he will
Deletebe doing. But yeah, kudos for standing up to the alt-right..they tend a bit fascist.
He's not a core conservative, never has been. Hollywood acts like he's Ronald Reagan X 10. He said some things to appeal to the Base when that was needed, that is all.
DeleteSo he's willing to say or lie to get what he wants. I should be reassured by this? Seems to be the basis for a lack of trust. If he's willing to say things to get votes, and no intent of carrying through, why should I believe what he says now?
ReplyDeleteBetter for you (Paris Climate Accord, no prosecution of Hillary...).
DeleteMeanwhile, the new VPUS doesn't apply the same standards he
ReplyDeletedemanded of Hillary to his own e-mails:
"After the Trump-Pence ticket exploited the issue of Hillary Clinton's emails at every turn, Mike Pence is working to block public access to the contents of his emails as governor of Indiana.
His lawyers are now fighting to deny disclosure of records showing how many taxpayer dollars he spent to hire outside attorneys to join an anti-immigration case. If Pence succeeds in keeping those records hidden from public view, it would set a precedent in which the judicial branch in Indiana sacrifices its ability to properly serve as a check on the state’s executive branch. Pence is clearly in favor of the executive having unfettered control without that check." Crooked Pence, lock him up! Has a familiar ring...
Reading Pence's emails that has to be boring as hell.
DeletePretty much like Hillary's or mine.
DeleteWhich is probably why Trump is dropping the case although he's getting flack.
DeleteIMO, tis best for Trump and the GOP: dozens of congressional inquisitions, several FBI investigations. Found nothing, really. Now, if that becomes the political norm, the GOP IMO has
Deletebeen far more crooked, even having the Ruskies
hack the Dems and possibly even perform vote
switching. Of course, as we have seen the standards for the GOP politicians are far less stringent:
they hurt themselves and conceivably with the
results of their administrations economically and socially, we may end up more socialist than they
would have imagined. But we will know the cause...
Are they still protesting? QUESTION - If somebody has shifting principles how do you know what you're protesting?
ReplyDeleteIt isn't up to Trump whether to proceed with a case against Hillary. That's up to the FBI. No one seems to get that. However, his fan base will soon if not already have reason to protest themselves; far from draining any swamps, he's filling seats with lobbyists. And assembling a ridiculous cast of characters, really, Carson for HUD? What kind of nonsense is that? In other news, many of his fans get big benefits from Obamacare and Medicaid expansions. What they'll think when it's ripped out from under them who knows. I don't think it will help his popularity.
ReplyDeleteJill Stein is going for a recount. I think it's a good idea. All that talk about rigging the election and all I could think of was that old psychological phenomenon of 'projection' where one literally projects oneself's behaviours onto others. It wouldn't surprise me one bit to find out that vote was tampered with. He was hell bent sure it was all rigged until it looked like he won. The same people calling for pitchforks and armed rebellion in the event of an HRC win are the same people looking wide eyed at the protesters and saying, oh, can't they lose gracefully? The answer is that HRC didn't lose. A quirk of an antiquated system-which DJT was against, btw-caused her to get less electoral votes despite winning bigly in the popular vote. She didn't lose, the people spoke, they just don't get heard. I think a recount may show some irregularities.
Russia is all up in our electoral business these days and did quite a bit of philandering rigging the system in favor of the Donald. A lot of the fake news has been traced back and it's a classic case of propaganda. Cold war my ass. These days propaganda runs on Facebook. Putin is probably cackling thinking about how much negative influence he was able to put onto Hillary.
My husband is of the opinion that he'll be impeached, bigly, and sooner rather than later, by his own people. If the recount goes off it may not even get to that. Certainly the man is involved in a lot of shady dealings and I understand some 3500 court cases so there's plenty of room for it.
And what about these conflicts of interest? Like the nonexistent tax returns, they may never all be revealed.
Instead of these recounts I think the better course of action with longer-term benefits for everyone is to work to abolish the Electoral College. If Trump is impeached over something let the chips fall where they may.
DeleteI agree with abolishing the EC. The recounts are a good thing I think but they won't change the outcome.
DeleteJust think about it. If we only had the popular vote Gore and Hillary would've been in the Oval Office.
DeleteAnd how much better off we all would have been.
Delete..like no Great Recession and no fake WMD war in
DeleteIraq...or cutting taxes on the wealthy..to say nothing of a couple presidents who actually won the
popular vote. Americans are slow learners.
The movement if you can call it that against the Electoral College doesn't seem organized enough or large enough or grass rootsey enough or whatever to have gained steam over the years. Yeah we talk about it and complain about it like the two yearly time changes we're still forced to do but nothing ever really comes of it. A good time would be now to get it going, rockin' & rollin' before Trump runs for reelection in four years.
DeleteEight years of The Tweeter In Chief?
DeleteThe Collected Tweets of Donald J. Trump - 45th President of the United States (Vol. 1)
DeleteWon't do much about the electoral college: 80% of Americans hate and would remove Citizens United. Only Scalia and George Will liked it..and look what it got old Georgie.
DeleteSo we'll continue to complain about this every four years or so just like Daylight Savings Time.
DeleteWe will. We are just US citizens, our rights are to
Deletevote and to complain, just like our fellow citizen
Wells Fargo. How come we can't write off depreciations? I agree about the shape shifter diagnosis and it is hard to complain, but the cabinet appointees are all private sector types and Pence is an iconic evangelical fundamentalist, so my
priorities are pretty well shot, ya know?
Hey, politics is bringing your old timers out of the woodwork, Z-Man. Politics 1, Mandela 0?
DeleteGeorge Will gave up a chance at a cabinet post by bashing the Donald. Could've been official archivist or something.
DeleteGeorge didn't have enough hedge funds to be in a Trump cabinet.
Delete