Pro-life doesn't seem to be a great theme here, the higher concern, the broader context is the continuing socialist narrative. While this of course is not unimportant it shouldn't have been the only thing on the table. Maybe it's because re abortion we're so settled in our ways on the issue and we see it as a distraction from the Larger Cause but I think we could have made a more effective presentation. Obama and his Socialist Agenda, folks probably don't even know what the word means, it has that amorphous ring to it but let's say Obama is a regular reader of the conservative blogosphere as well, he might be forgiven if he concludes they don't seem to talk about the a-word all that much so why should I be nudged or cajoled towards the Center on the issue? Maybe it is all about money, our money in the end only trouble is Obama the Socialist doesn't have a womb-view, a broader package. It's Ayn Rand and reading nothing else. There was a shade of grandeur when McCain addressed pro-life head on during the third and final debate but it didn't take long for the Boat to steer back on its Animal Farm voyage. Just my post-election post-mortem for what it's worth.
At one part in his victory speech Obama threw an olive branch to us, "and to those who didn't vote for me I hear your voices" but does he really? Well if he's listening we're taking notes, well some of us are anyway, for when he runs for his second term and it's quite obvious that's a given since he said it's probably gonna take more than one term to clean up The Mess. Now it is assumed that Mr. Men's Vogue is pro-choice of course, it is the only rational position after all but most folks really don't know the extent of it. He needs to distance himself from the FRINGE of NOW and Planned Parenthood, it's like the friend you need to dump, who holds you back, who pulls you down and this would finally free him up to formulate his own abortion policy. I never really got why social conservatives hitched their wagon to the Republican Party in the first place, they really don't give a damn about the issue anyway, they became infatuated with a whore. Should have gone their own way but that's a pet peeve of mine. Obama has said to pro-abortion groups that his very first act as president will be to sign the Freedom of Choice Act which would codify Roe vs. Wade should that decision ever be overturned but when he attempts to woo The Middle again in 012 it'll come back to haunt him.....
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...or maybe it (socialism) was the only thing we could agree on and so we went with it. You know anybody can call themselves a conservative these days but I thought there were some core principles at stake. It's a canard that only very conservative people need concern themselves with the abortion issue. We have one of the most liberal abortion policies in the world, first-trimester is only a warmup and many moderates can should and are deeply troubled about the issue and the point here is an Obama who has made a special point of distancing himself from the special interests can tap into that. In many many areas abortions are performed up to 24 weeks (!), Obama voted against the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act when even Hillary and Ted Kennedy voted for it and yet hardly a peep from the msm, the conservative blogosphere is supposed to fill in the blanks ya think? Now those money-minded conservatives who want nothing to do with the social conservative crowd, well ya know something? I feel the same way, you go your way and we'll go ours and let's have a nice life. I myself don't blog about pro-life all that much myself, looking back I can probably count on two hands at least with 600 blogs to date but I try to talk about it or some aspect of it every now and then, Obama was perfectly vulnerable on it and it showed during the last debate but I do respect Senator McCain for his showing in that last debate, for so many reasons it's memorable at least for me.....OK,
ReplyDeletePicking Sarah Palin was supposed to appease the pro-lifers of the party, but I want more than appeasement myself. I personally like the Constitutional Party's position on the Sanctity of Life, and why I feel that is the party where I belong.
ReplyDeleteWell Whoopie's happy though, now she can have eight more abortions. Some of the blogs I'm talking about here, the proper term is libertarian not conservative although the two do sometimes overlap. Now as Bill O'Reilly pointed out today in his newspaper column we live in a center/right country right now and I would add pure libertarianism is and will always be a minority creed. Let me put it another way, porn, prostitution, drug use, gay marriage, divorce and abortion are all social issues. Now I may not be the strictest social conservative on some of these issues in terms of the Official Social Conservative Position but I have some social conservatism in me and I think most people do. I think those who don't feel any social conservative pull at all, whatever floats their boat but I think it falls outside the political norm...I'm just getting started here.
ReplyDeleteThe other thing is social conservatives will talk about things like socialism but the money-minded conservatives won't talk about any of the social issues or else they do to lambaste us. I always found the whole Terri Schiavo episode to be creepy, anybody who had any reservations whatsoever was an asshole in Michael Schiavo's book and I'm not talking any political persuasion here and yet you had that New York Post editorial basically taking his side and they did this time and again, the Post being known as one of the few conservative papers around. George Will who has lost alot of social conservatism over the years imo basically saw it from only one angle too, that the Congress wrongly intervened. This is only one classic example of course but I think what we're seeing with the Obama election is the conservative crackup, the fault lines that were always there. I mean if we didn't even agree on things like Schiavo socialism was the only way to go but in the end it didn't carry the day did it? Social conservatives will always have an impact in any election, it can't be otherwise and if that bothers some people then go in the closet and uncork one.
ReplyDeleteOn the subject of all the Palin-bashing which is so fashionable now it's a canard, McCain could have chosen Henry Kissinger with the spirit of Ronald Reagan whispering things in his ear and it wouldn't have made one whit of difference. People voted simply to Make History, nothing more.
ReplyDeleteI think the disagreements we are experiencing at my blog about abortion is exactly why the Republicans didn't make it to be a big issue this election cycle, we conservatives cannot even agree on it! But you are so right that Obama on the topic of abortion is so far out from most people's views that it really should have been discussed a LOT more, and a lot sooner than that third debate.
ReplyDeleteI have to laugh at the irony here, a bunch of conservatives debating abortion! Do liberals do this? I know you clued me in that Patrick has a new blog about all the different kinds of conservatism which begs the point imo, how many different kinds can you have before you lose the very meaning of conservatism? Are there that many different kinds of liberalism?
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