Tuesday, September 25, 2012

The Hunger Games

I bought the DVD at a FYE store yesterday and wasn't sure I'd even like the movie due to its overly dark and disturbing material, kind of reminds me of Shirley Jackson's The Lottery and then there was the matter of protagonist Katniss Everdeen, how can you make a heroine out of someone who participates in the madness and kills other people?  Once I started watching The Hunger Games though my views slowly changed.  It became obvious that those teens Katniss killed were at the root evil to begin with and she had to defend herself.  The Hunger Games based on the first book in a trilogy by American YA writer Suzanne Collins is a kind of prophetic hybrid of Lord of the Flies and 1984 with a healthy dose of Serling.  I've often thought of why don't we have literary classics anymore but with the themes here that hearken back to elements in those earlier works I can see the potential for a classic itself here, a future item on a high-schooler's reading list.  So what is the interpretation?  First off I agree with Beth who blogged about this once and I hope she takes time out to join the discussion here and so I do see it as a kind of cautionary tale against Big Government and in the comments section I'll delve more into that.  Yes of course it's a kind of satire of the reality TV craze and all.  When things in the 74th annual Hunger Games get a little boring for the viewers at home the staff at the central control panels first add a blazing forest fire to get Katniss closer to her adversaries and later on noontime eerily turns into nightfall and three large black and frightening attack dogs that look like a cross between a pitbull and a panther are added to the mix, so much for playing fair.  The president of Panem played by Donald Sutherland says to one of the younger bosses, not sure what his role is exactly and they all look weird but he says to him early on to watch this Katniss character as she represents hope and hope is stronger than fear and it may be a spark now but to contain it.  The Hunger Games as well can be Glenn Beck's worst nightmares come to fruition.  There is also the theme of the star-crossed lovers Katniss and Peeta the other teen chosen from her District 12 and the two are willing to die at the end by eating the poisonous nightberries until a Voice comes from the sky telling them to stop the Games are over and they're the victors.  Then there's the central enigma of the movie, WHY do the 24 teens chosen HAVE TO kill each other?  Did the Powers-That-Be mandate this?  I didn't catch that.  Of course they could have all just teemed together to survive so there's some powerful philosophical and theological observations going on here about human nature itself, about the nature of Good and Evil and you could say maybe it was all just one big vast social experiment besides being a form of perverse entertainment.  I have to say this is really a great and thought-provoking movie well-suited for the action/adventure format and there's so many political angles to this thing so let's get started...... 

31 comments:

  1. Didn't see it, won't be anytime soon. I did watch The Expendables not very long ago. Dolph Lundgren hasn't aged well.

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  2. Well the movie's about 2 1/2 hours long, just under 3 hours I think and it was so compelling I just watched it straight through. You haven't even watched Melancholia yet and that's all about depression. Speaking of not aging that well I had some concerns when Clint Eastwood was speaking at the RNC.

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  3. The first segment or half was a little long when the kids known as the Tributes were honing their skills to engage in battle but I have to say Woody Harrelson was terrific. We'll break it down into little Jackie Chan segments, rent the DVD and watch about 20 minutes a night. Think of it as Rumble in the Bronx only in the woods.

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  4. I bet Clint wins an award for that new movie he's got out. What else have I seen lately? Not much, I don't think. I saw Secretariat, that was really good. We always watch a lot of America's Game during football season. It's basically a series of documentaries that cover every Superbowl. Very sad, Steve Sabol just died. Between him and his father they absolutely changed the game of football and sports in general.

    Speaking of the Bronx, you ever see The Warriors? It's like practically mandatory for New Yorkers. The whole thing is fab, filmed on location in the subway and in Woodlawn, and then Joe Walsh singing the song...

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  5. A guy at work gave it to me a few years ago, considered a cult classic along with I Spit on Your Grave which actually wasn't that bad of a movie. Superfly, Blacula, I got a few of those in my collection. Well apparently we're not gonna have a discussion of The Hunger Games yet so when it does come up in a search engine as I used all key words in my title people will go WTF?!?

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  6. Yeah I guess I'll just have to keep posting variations on the theme Obama Sucks and we'll have a rip-roaring good time. Have any hobbies? yeah politics. Have any other hobbies? yeah politics.

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  7. OMG I spit on your grave...got drunk with a couple of friends sophmore year and watched it...couldn't watch it today, too much PTSD, itd set me off for screaming nightmares.

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  8. It's rough esp. the bathtub scene. That movie was filmed in a part of Connecticut just past New Milford, Kent I think. Got panned by the critics at the time like Roger Ebert, some found the part where she goes into a church to pray before going on her rampage of revenge to be particularly offensive.

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  9. Got a small bone to pick. Practically everyone says The Exorcist is flatout the best and scariest horror movie of all time but I agree with Alice Cooper who says Dario Argento's Suspiria (1977) is in the top 2 or 3. Ever hear of the rock group Goblin? definitely very different.

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  10. You will be glad to hear, Z-Man, that I have no comment, observation or lecture on the subject.

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  11. Well I did go through all the wikis on each book of the trilogy and it's become a franchise like Twilight with the second installment Catching Fire hitting movie theaters late next year and then the final one Mockingjay being divided into two parts.

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  12. Hmmm...esp. when you consider that author Suzanne Collins stated as part of her inspiration our entry into the Iraq War I think that both Left and Right can use the books as they see fit and so I thought it'd fit in here quite nicely. Back to the War on Women though...

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  13. Scott says the Exorcist is the scariest movie of all time ever.

    I dunno. I don't do well with scary anymore, so I'm not really a good judge. I'm crawling the walls after the first 4 seconds of the 'Halloween' music.

    I never did understand why people like scary movies.

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  14. Stephen King taps into this. Exorcist is good of course but definitely over the top. Watched the special extras on my DVD copy of Hunger Games and the extras are almost as long as the movie itself! I like extras if the movie deserves it but they all feel they have to do it even with mediocre films and why in hell would you watch a flick w/the director's commentary on and not hear the actual dialogue? Ah trends!

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  15. Most of the time I LOVE to watch 'the making of' type stuff. Documentary type thing. Watched the one about Jaws a couple weeks ago, was on the blu-ray disc as an extra. And yeah, I've watched a couple movies with the commentary on. Was good with Spinal Tap.

    Tell me you've seen Spinal Tap.

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  16. I like the 'making of' stuff more than the movies. I love the LOTR movies, but the making of stuff was really super great. I could be happy just watching that. I'm kind of a documentary type, I guess. Same reason I don't read fiction.

    I'm not a TV girl but there's this guy Danny on CSI NY. He's totally not cute but he has the accent and I knew first time I heard it that it was real and not put on... I just want him to talk to me. Doesn't matter what about, he could read your blog out loud or Ayn Rand or even Ann Landers. That accent, geez I go to mush.

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  17. Must be because I'm getting older but I find the subtitles/captioning on most DVDs today helps me alot. Even if I don't need it I wind up reading it anyway. I have a bug up my butt about one thing though, ya know how on your DVD remote you can skip forward and back to different scenes you may prefer? One movie I did that recently, actually it was Mulholland Drive by David Lynch and I wanted to get past the first few scenes to something in the middle and when I skipped it it went right to the credits and then ff'ing at different speeds is sometimes problematic as the screen sometimes freezes. Little things I know but they get my knickers in a twist.

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  18. tell me, how is that not cut and pasted from elsewhere?

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  19. "Gott mit uns" ..God is with us.
    Standard issue on every Nazi Wehrmacht belt buckle.

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  20. Watched the Avengers this weekend...I really liked it. I have always had a very soft spot for RDJ as Iron Man.. but there is something indeed to be said for tall blue eyed Scandanavian thunder gods.

    It was good.

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  21. We may as well discuss the guy who petted the tiger in the Bronx Zoo since we're not gonna discuss The Hunger Games. I'm glad they didn't euthanize the animal.

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  22. I can't discuss it... I haven't seen it.

    I can wax eloquent about Scandanavian thunder gods if you like.

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  23. I can tell this is not the homework bunch to go home and watch the movie but at least confer the SparkNotes! My friend's real big on mythology too, apparently there was alot of sex and violence in the godworld back in the day.

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  24. IMO, they take the names from the
    ancient gods mythology and avoid the boring details; who would
    watch Odin, (head norse god), who
    wandered around and swapped one eye
    for a sip from the well of knowledge?

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  25. The guy who played Thor in the movie was a very tall remarkably handsome long-blonde-hair blue eyed Australian (which in my opinion was close enough to Scandanavia to please). After listening to me rhapsodize for a while with plenty double entendres about thunderbolts Scott looked the guy up on Wiki and proceeded to tell me he was born in 1983, which, while it does make him legal, still made me feel like a child molester.

    What a way to piss on somebody's cornflakes.

    The bastard.

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  26. Now now that we're into gods The Hunger Games is partly based on the myth of Theseus who slew the Minotaur and there's a hell of alot of Roman elements in the movie so if that doesn't do it...

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  27. In the 'conspiracy theory' department, 'Hunger Games' may
    be a plagiarized copycat version of an earlier work. hmm, wonder...

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  28. I read about that on Wiki, now if we could only get Saty interested in the discussion.

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  29. I can't do the linky thing, I need directions.

    Until then, you can interest me in this:

    http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/30800000/Thor-the-avengers-30878870-1920-1080.jpg

    oh HELL yes. Bring that hammer this way.

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  30. Directions for the linky thing?
    You can write the code, which involves some href, stuff
    or use a code generator such as this this or that . With these generators, you
    copy and paste the URL of the site
    into the proper box 'link anchor tag' and enter the word or words
    'text' you wish to link. Another
    click will bring up the entire coded entry. Copy that, then paste
    into your commentary where you wish. This is the easiest version of Z-man's 'scissors & Elmers glue'
    process. It is interesting that some commenters ignore such links, while in other cases they become
    quite intersted in your sources...



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