Monday, January 07, 2013
Advanced Obamanomics - the payroll tax
We just got a memo from Human Resources, the federal payroll tax holiday is expiring and they just went up 2%. To use an example someone pulling in $300/wk. would have six extra dollars taken out. Of course I'm not a member of the evil 2% and I know Obama is looking out for my middle-class interests. Then there's the new health-care tax:)
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You were forwarned Z-Man:
ReplyDelete"Hey, on a kinder, gentler note,
your payroll SS tax will go from
4.2% to 6.2% starting next paycheck. Obama caved"
-BB-Idaho, comment #4 previous thread. My understanding is that
it was threatening social security
solvency and so-
"Obama pushed hard to enact the payroll tax cut for 2011 and to extend it through 2012. But it was never fully embraced by either party, and this time around, there was general agreement to let it expire." The only good thing is
that your employer pays the other half, I guess.
What tick me off is all of those idiots who voted for this Narcissistic Sociopath Bozo knew this was going to happen and now that are bitching about it! What's that they say about the definition of a idiot?
ReplyDeleteHere's a question I want answered.... why are idiots still allowed vote?
Redneck, why do you always have to be so juvenile and name calling? And for Chrissake you don't even know the definitions of the words you're using.
ReplyDeletePlease, will you?
Taken from the Washington Times.
ReplyDeleteSometimes, watching a Democrat learn something is wonderful, like seeing the family dog finally sit and stay at your command.
With President Obama back in office and his life-saving “fiscal cliff” bill jammed through Congress, the new year has brought a surprising turn of events for his sycophantic supporters.
“What happened that my Social Security withholding’s in my paycheck just went up?” a poster wrote on the liberal site DemocraticUnderground.com. “My paycheck just went down by an amount that I don’t feel comfortable with. I guarantee this decrease is gonna’ hurt me more than the increase in income taxes will hurt those making over 400 grand. What happened?”
Shocker. Democrats who supported the president’s re-election just had NO idea that his steadfast pledge to raise taxes meant that he was really going to raise taxes. They thought he planned to just hit those filthy “1 percenters,” you know, the ones who earned fortunes through their inventiveness and hard work. They thought the free ride would continue forever.
So this week, as taxes went up for millions of Americans — which Republicans predicted throughout the campaign would happen — it was fun to watch the agoggery of the left.
“I know to expect between $93 and $94 less in my paycheck on the 15th,” wrote the ironically named “RomneyLies.”
“My boyfriend has had a lot of expenses and is feeling squeezed right now, and having his paycheck shrink really didn’t help,” wrote “DemocratToTheEnd.”
“BlueIndyBlue” added: “Many of my friends didn’t realize it, either. Our payroll department didn’t do a good job of explaining the coming changes.”
So let’s explain something to our ill-informed Democratic friends. In 2009, Mr. Obama enacted a “holiday” on the payroll tax deduction from employees’ paychecks, dropping the rate from 6.2 percent to 4.2 percent. But like the holidays, the drop ended, and like New Year‘s, the revelers woke up the next morning with a massive hangover and a pounding head.
“Bake,” who may have been trolling the site, jumped into the thread posted Friday. “My paycheck just went down. So did my wife’s. This hurts us. But everybody says it’s a good thing, so I guess we just suck it up and get used to it. I call it a tax increase on the middle class. I wonder what they call it. Somebody on this thread called it a ‘premium.’ Nope. It’s a tax, and it just went up.”
Some in the thread argued that the new tax — or the end of the “holiday,” which makes it a new tax — wouldn’t really amount to much. One calculated it would cost about $86 a month for most people. “Honeycombe8,” though, said that amount is nothing to sneeze at.
“$86 a month is a lot. That would pay for … Groceries for a week, as someone said. More than what I pay for parking every month, after my employer’s contribution to that. A new computer after a year. A new quality pair of shoes … every month. Months of my copay for my hormones. A new thick coat (on sale or at discount place). It would pay for what I spend on my dogs every month … food, vitamins, treats.”
The Twittersphere was even funnier.
“Really, how am I ever supposed to pay off my student loans if my already small paycheck keeps getting smaller? Help a sister out, Obama,” wrote “Meet Virginia.” “Nancy Thongkham” was much more furious. “F***ing Obama! F*** you! This taking out more taxes s*** better f***ing help me out!! Very upset to see my paycheck less today!”
You simply can not fix stupid!
Satyavati devi dasi said...
ReplyDeleteRedneck, why do you always have to be so juvenile and name calling? And for Chrissake you don't even know the definitions of the words you're using
Do you mean calling Obama a
Narcissistic Sociopath Bozo, I'm sue that I described him correctly, what's your problem?
Do you realize that namecalling makes you appear to be totally juvenile?
ReplyDeleteDo you also realize that none of those words is applicable from a clinical standpoint?
"Taken from the Washington Times."
ReplyDeleteWhy would anyone quite anything from a newspaper of a criminal cult that for years was run out of a prison by a serial pedophile? Check into the Times please.
Watching a Democrat squirm is a sight for sore eyes, like they are about Obama's new Payroll tax is wonderful,
ReplyDeleteWith President Obama back from his "Vacation" in sunny Hawaii, and in his in office for a change, after his life-saving “fiscal cliff” bill that was once again jammed through Congress, the new year has brought a surprising turn of events for his kool-aide drinking supporters.
But we are now hearing them scream..."What happened that my Social Security withholding’s in my paycheck just went up?” a poster wrote on the liberal site Democratic Underground.com. “My paycheck just went down by an amount that I don’t feel comfortable with.
Well it's just to freaken bad, you idiots should have known this would happen! I guarantee this decrease in your pay checks is gonna hurt more than the increase in income taxes will hurt those making over 400 grand. What happened?
Shocker. Democrats who supported the president’s re-election just had NO idea that his steadfast pledge to raise taxes meant that he was really going to raise taxes. They thought he planned to just hit those Filthy Rich! you know, the ones who earned fortunes through their hard work. They thought the free ride would continue forever.
So this week, as taxes went up for millions of Americans which was EXACTLY what the Republicans predicted throughout the campaign would happen — it was fun to watch the agony of the left. And how did you like that Clown running around patting his buddies on their back like he just won a marathon race. No, he didn't win a race, he just screw 70 percent of the American people, and won some political points. Who's laughing now you Idiots!
BB I realize it's not Obama's fault. It never is.
ReplyDelete..saw on a blog the other day that 911 and the Iraq invasion were all
ReplyDeleteObama's fault.
I just read a staggering report this morning, that 128 million Americans are now on entitlement government programs, and with Obama's continuance to spend, spend, and spend, we are all doomed! Robbing Peters to pay Paul just don't work.
ReplyDeleteIt seems as if the cancer of Socialism is alive and well in America.
Z... I never thought I would see two bloggers crib from the same site, on the same blog, at the same time... As always, your blog has given me little chuckle for my day...
ReplyDeleteDmarks... It does make you wonder doesn't it
Lets not forget it was the GOP that opposed both original and this extension of the payroll tax cut on the belief that this lower tax added to the deficit. Now of they would have applied that logic in 2002, we might not be in the fix we are in currently...
BB there are those who feel Obama is doing such a great job that he deserves a third term. Bronx Rep. Jose Serrano a Democrat of course has filed yet another bill to repeal the 22nd Amendment, for Obama to be able to pull a Bloomberg on a national scale and why not? If he's as great as you and Saty and Shaw are saying might we make an exception?
ReplyDeleteNaw, two terms is enough for anyone. Z-Man, what's this fight
ReplyDeletebetween Glenn Beck & Alex Jones..
more RW squabbling?
President Obama is worst than Nixon who was kicked out of office and Benghazigate is much worse than Watergate. I don’t think that I have to spell out the fact that in Watergate, NOBODY was Murdered, where as in Benghazigate we saw FOUR Americans that were. . And to add fuel to the fire Obama decided that the opinion’s of the majority of America just doesn’t matter at that what Congress thinks just isn't important! So HE can do whatever he wants to just by involving executive privilege. As we are about to see with his gun control dictatorship legislation..
ReplyDeleteAnd furthermore, don’t be fooled by the progressives, leftists who claim that they hate guns and that they want to get rid of them. They hate guns in the hands of anyone besides themselves. Just look at ALL of these Hollywood, Rappers, and Sports figures, I’d bet that over 90 percent of them either have their own guns or they have bodyguards who have guns. These people have been more responsible for gun violence then the NRA will ever be now-a-days.
The lefties, progressives seem to spin things anyway that suits their own purpose. Obama is stepping on very dangerous ground, bordering of Dictatorship if you may, and he knows it so rather than his stepping on the constitution , he sends Old Grinning Uncle Joe Biden to do it for him, because he doesn’t want his fingerprints on this one. As if the “Bill of Rights” is not sacrosanct.
And as for Piers Morgan…I say we should start a petition to deport that idiot. If he or anyone else doesn’t like our Constitution and second amendment, let them leave the USA...period.
The Bill of Rights guarantees rights but nowhere does it say that rights cannot be REGULATED and there is ample precedent for this. The Second Amendment is no different than any other and there is no reason that it cannot have regulations applied to it, same as any other.
ReplyDeleteThat's true Saty but it's also true that the First Amendment or your right to free speech is stronger than the Second or your right to own a gun. Pretty much everyone has free speech since they're born but not everyone should own a gun or have that right. Put yet another way the mentally ill have free speech just like the rest of us but shouldn't own a gun.
ReplyDeleteAs I understand it BB this RW squabble has to do with Glenn Beck calling Alex Jones dangerous and that's a rich one - pot/kettle/black. Seems not that long ago that Glenn Beck was the latest RW extremist. My friend has a short-wave radio and driving around yesterday we listened to alot of Alex Jones and I finally figured out why conservatives won't budge on the gun issue even after Newtown and Alex Jones crystallized it. It's not that the conservative position on assault weapons is logical, it's not. In fact it's absurd but conservatives feel it's the thin edge of the wedge to a tyrannical gov't taking over after all what did Hitler first do? He took away everyone's guns of course. Liberals, lefties do this too, they reflexively oppose any restrictions on partial-birth and other forms of late-term abortion because they see somewhere down the road Rick Santorum having ladies spill the contents of their purses on the table and confiscating their birth control pills.
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ReplyDeleteWhat I would like to know is why the Repubs are you supporting John Boehner? Is it because you're so stupid? As usual, Republicans just don't want to hear common sense or logic, all they can do is call the President names, and make up all those vicious lies about him. Its time the free ride for the Rich is over. The ultra-wealthy have had tax breaks, and loop ho;es for years. Bush brought us into two unnecessary wars that have gone on for 11 years and Obama is getting us out FINALLY, and the righties just can't stand the fact that he is doing it. As well as killing Bin Laden.
The republicans idea of compromise is, give us what we want period. Well, Obama WON, get used to it.
Question Man: "It's time the free ride for the Rich is over."
ReplyDeleteSo that's what this is all about. Told you folks!
Is there qualitatively a difference between 'entitlement reform' to make it more difficult for the poor to play the system and get assistance undeservingly and making it more difficult for the rich to get tax breaks through loopholes and things that make it easier for them to play the system?
ReplyDeleteSo after four years of Obama digging into our pockets, you think that wasn’t enough! And your ok with his continuing to take, take and take from us and spend it away like a drunken Sailor! Well, that’s exactly what he’s going to be doing, hell, why stop now? You blind and brain-dead Democrats seem to be happy with your failure of a leader, after all you gave him four more years to rape this country. My bet is that we will be in another recession before 2013 is over and I’d bet that if you had the chance you’d vote for him again. Good luck with that !
ReplyDeleteI don't know about you, but as an American, I don't want to live under the rule of a Socialist.
We WILL be in another recession if the Republicans continue this austerity insanity and the nonstop obstructionism.
ReplyDeletePlease, Crabby.. the President is not a Socialist. I am a Socialist. The man is a centrist. If you take a moment to actually look at the policies he's put through, in no way, shape or form can they be labeled as any type of Socialist policymaking. I realize it's a fun word for you to throw around, but it's simply not true.
Are you kidding? How could anyone see this man as a centrist? You people crack me up.
ReplyDeleteEconomically since day one in office he has been the most left-wing radical president of the past 50 years. Economically speaking, his presidency is -after well over $4 trillion in deficits and counting every minute, an entirely failed one. Obama a centrist? In what way has he been anything but anti-business, anti-job, anti-success, anti-free trade, anti US dollar. He believes in the political/crony distribution of capital to industries that have failed to gain funding from every other institutional investor. He believes in taking from those who earn to pay those who do not. He believes in the now so obviously failed great Keynesian experiment - AGAIN! If it didn't work the first time, let's waste another half a billion or so. Centrist? What utter crap.
Any time someone calls Obama a commie they are immediately labeled a right wing radical nut job, among other things. But it seems that every day Obama does or says something new proving all us "radical right-wing nut jobs" Americans correct.
He had the most left wing voting record as a senator and has continued the same in office. He fails miserably to build bi-partisan consensus, and therefore many of his initiatives die because they fail to gain enough support (immigration reform, the jobs bill, the debacle about deficit reduction...). So how can anyone call him a centrist, it’s beyond me.?
But lets look at the video tape...so to say!
Individual mandate to purchase health insurance,
Pursuing big government takeover of 1/6 of domestic GDP,
Apologizing for America's past foreign policy,
Refuting American Exceptionalism,
Tripling the budget deficit,
Increasing the national debt by over $4 trillion in his first 3 yrs (Bush jacked it up by almost $5 trillion over 8 yrs),
and preaching class warfare (which is very uncommon in American politics).Yeah, Obama is defiantly a socialist. And shame on America for electing a socialist as well as such a bad president and doing it twice yet! . Hopefully America will survive and learn from it’s mistakes.
Give me a break Satyavati devi dasi, will you please, Barack Obama is no more a centrist than the likes of Joseph Stalin or Karl Marx. There are a lot of different “isms” in this day and age, and some people get caught up in what is the proper “ism” for the particular person. But Barrack Obama is no more a centrist than the likes of Joseph Stalin or Karl Marx. To be centrist is to take the "middle" road. In Obama’s case he is so far left he wants to bring us to ruin.
ReplyDeleteI don’t care what you want to call yourself, but I think you need to focus on improving your education skills, you need it. Your attempt to equate liberalism with centrism in order to make you liberals seem more credible just don’t pass the smell test. The motto of the left is that any lie or falsehood is okay, if it moves them closer to their goal, ala Hillary Clinton. or The end justifies the means.
Obama is a hard-core radical Socialist. Everything he stands for is focused on making more and more people dependent on the government.
This has all been so debunked so many times that I have no time nor interest in discussing it with you. Obviously you either don't check things with reality or you know you're not aligned with it and don't care.
ReplyDeleteEither way it makes you more or less a lost cause.
ObamaCare hardly strikes me as centrist Saty but you talk about
ReplyDelete"this austerity insanity"
so let me ask you a question. Let's say you live beyond your means, well beyond your means. Yes this is a metaphor for Gov't but anyway you're spending and spending and finally your bills come due, your credit cards all maxed out and the party is over. What is a good debt counselor likely to say to you? Probably something along the lines of good ole austerity, just sayin':)
Talk to the economists. They're the ones saying it won't work.
ReplyDeleteHas it worked so far in Europe? It doesn't seem so to me.
As far as my own personal finances go, if anything happens to Mr. B I shall be applying to the court for a conservatorship, because I'm utterly hopeless with numbers.
And really, do you think providing millions of new subscribers to private insurance companies is Socialist?
Which economists? We need to get our fiscal house in order before we get a Chinese boot up our ass. ObamaCare is centrist? is this some sort of mental puzzle? There are so many complications for business I'm even hearing on my own job I don't know where to begin and then there is the filing of tax forms proving you have health insurance...Put it to you this way, I work with liberals who are for the usual liberal things, periodic hikes in the minimumm wage and gay marriage and all that and even they say Obama is quite possibly the worst president of modern times.
ReplyDeleteI'll leave ranking presidents to the presidential scholars .
ReplyDeleteIt's no secret that eggheads veer left.
ReplyDeleteWhy might that be, do you suppose... what's the connection between high intelligence and liberal thinking?
ReplyDeleteConversely, what would be the connection between low intelligence and conservative thinking?
Before you answer: you started it.
The late WFB Jr. and the current George Will, low intelligence doesn't come to mind.
ReplyDelete..to say nothing of the highly educated Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck,
ReplyDeleteSean Hannity, Mark Steyn and Alex Jones..who made it through HS...
somehow. Now George Will has a PhD, which has made him a RINO .
...to say nothing of the erudite team of Michael Moore, Al Franken, Al Sharpton, Spike Lee and Oliver Stone, a leftwing intellectual powerhouse.
ReplyDeleteAl Franken..rather toss a few beers with him than be in the same state as Ted Nugent.
ReplyDeleteBut Ted'll probably keep you safer than Mr. Franken would if some psycho busts through the door. Conservative Mark Levin, dunno man but he's a pretty educated guy.
ReplyDeleteUncle Ted IS the psycho busting in the door.
ReplyDelete& what would Franken do? For all BB's liberal talk of late I'd rather have some Charles Bronson character with a nice long wooden axe handle hiding behind the door waiting for the intruder to come in.
ReplyDeleteIf some psycho burst through the door, Franken would probably say the same thing as me.."Go away Ted,
ReplyDeleteno draft-dodgers allowed..."
GOP types I like-
ReplyDeleteCondoleeza Rice
Colin Powell
Jon Huntsman
Chuck Hegel
Dwight Eisenhower
Lincoln Chafee
Z-Man
I like Colin Powell. I like Condoleeza Rice too. But, amazingly enough, there's tons of Republicans who DON'T like them.. because they're not extreme enough.
ReplyDeleteIt seems like the Right has been overtaken by fanatics.
A fanatic is someone who won't budge on principle. In this regard concerning those tax hikes on the rich Obama fits the bill.
ReplyDeleteSo does 98% of the Republican Party. The other 2% have been complaining about it recently.
ReplyDeleteAnd which part of it was originally supposed to be anyone making over $250K and Obama agreed to hike that to $400K are you forgetting?
ReplyDeleteHe knew he was gonna do this, it's like a game of chess. Important thing is he got the hikes on the wealthy that he wanted.
ReplyDeleteHe went in saying $250K and practically doubled that. So that's negotiating. That's what it's about.
ReplyDeleteI should say it pissed me off. If it was me I wouldn't have gone one hot nickel over $250K.
& you would have drove the country into another recession. I think Obama deliberately chose a low figure like 250K knowing 400K would be more like the real figure. Basically the negotiating was all in his direction, not so much whether or not to raise rates on the rich but by how much.
ReplyDeletePLEASE explain to me how increasing taxes on people making over $250K would have put the country into another recession.
ReplyDeleteClarification -- Obama was willing to go over the fiscal cliff and thus drive the country into another recession if the Republicans did not agree to any type of tax hikes on the rich. Re your comment above you just stated you would not have budged if you were president ERGO negotiations with you would have failed and automatic tax hikes on everybody and massive spending cuts would have gone into effect thus plunging the nation into another recession.
ReplyDeleteOK?
ERGO nothing.
ReplyDeleteHow many Republicans said they thought it was a fantastic idea to hold everyone hostage and go over the cliff? Twas right many, was it not? Do I need to do the research and give you fifty links?
You refuse to admit that Republicans are the ones that believe compromise is a dirty word. Why do you insist that the President make the concessions and do whatever it is ("compromise") with what Republicans want?
Just out of curiosity, just a general question - now most of us develop occasional criticisms of our presidents over time even the ones we like and voted for and, well just wondering do you have any criticisms of him as president? He's obviously your guy, you have passion behind it in all your comments so far and back him to the hilt even when he's not backable all the way but can he, can any president be that perfect??? OK so back to your point...oh why bother?
ReplyDeleteCriticisms of him as president. Yes.
ReplyDeleteI don't think he plays enough hardball.
I think he tries to hard to be reasonable with people who have no intention of being reasonable and with whom reason is an ineffective strategy.
I think he doesn't really understand what kind of people he's dealing with on the right, and that being the grownup in the room full of children has not been a strategy that has always served him well.... and he needs to stop it, unless he's gonna be the grownup that lines everyone up to give them their well deserved whuppins.
There you go.
I kind of thought you'd say this.
ReplyDeleteYou wanted criticisms. There they are.
ReplyDeleteI think it's a liberal fault in general. Liberals tend to put forth generally reasonable, rational debates.. they use science, statistics, facts, and expect that their opponents will as well.
That's where they go wrong. The problem with liberals is that they're so busy being reasonable, rational and tolerant that they forget that some people and things don't need to be tolerated, they need to be put down hard.
And then their rational, reasonble arguments get drowned out by the rabid screaming of a few on the other side.
Witness the gun thing, that's been going on since the day Obama took office. People have been screaming that he's coming after their guns since day one. No one's had their guns taken away, but people live in fear that they will be. People live in fear that if gay people get married civilization is going to collapse. People live in fear that the government is going to round them up and put them into concentration camps. All this craziness, simply because the crazy voices yell loudest.
I think liberals in general would do well to put a definitive stop to all that crazy screaming with a hearty STFU.
A Texas congressman announced he was pleased to take 'Patriot' Ted Nugent to the State of the Union.
ReplyDeleteConvicted poacher, admitted pedophile, convicted failure to support, draft-dodging, has been
musician. When will the GOP come to its senses?
To hear you two talk Spike Lee never said the Bush Gov't deliberately broke those Louisiana levees during Hurricane Katrina to purposely drown out the black folk.
ReplyDeleteSpike Lee is a dumbass with a big mouth. He is, however, no Alex Jones, nor is he a Rush Limbaugh, a Glenn Beck, or a Bill O Reilly. And he sure as shit is not Ted Nugent.
ReplyDeleteThe Right has damn near a monopoly on screaming crazies. If all you can come up with is Spike Lee and Katrina, that's proving my point right there.
But with Spike Lee the Left didn't try to marginalize him and Bill Maher gave him a respectable hearing. I don't know about the monopoly thing, I think we can google roughly equal numbers here.
ReplyDeleteI dunno, has Spike Lee said anything dumb-shit since then? What I mean is, he's not in the paper every day or even every week. I hear Nugent was at the SOTU speech. It's like yeah, the Left gets an idiot being mouthy now and then, but the Right has them in radio syndication.
ReplyDeleteThe funny part is when Glenn Beck was putting down Alex Jones recently. I had thought Nugent was so yesterday, you'd think the Right would have cut him loose by now.
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